Re:Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]
by mzw_mzw on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @02:46PM
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The point is that there have been plenty of purely governmental dystopias -- far more than there have been even pseudo-corporate ones like the ones you describe -- but we don't have people fretting about how we shouldn't have the government run Mars colonization due to that.
Re:Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]
by lmm on Thursday September 29, 2016 @04:54AM
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Dystopian colonies run by national governments yes. Dystopian colonies run by democracies of which the colonists were citizens no.
Re:Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]
by mzw_mzw on Thursday September 29, 2016 @01:51PM
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Weren't Algerians citizens of France? Anyway, if we're no-true-Scotsmaning here, there also aren't any examples of dystopian colonies run by "corporations" that weren't joined at the hip with a national government.
Re:Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]
by lmm on Friday September 30, 2016 @03:58AM
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> Weren't Algerians citizens of France?
I'm not ever so familiar with that history, but a quick look at the wiki suggests very much not; some of the elites were (and, at certain periods, the non-muslim population), but never the regular population, and indeed this was a major point of contention leading up to the war.
> Anyway, if we're no-true-Scotsmaning here, there also aren't any examples of dystopian colonies run by "corporations" that weren't joined at the hip with a national government.
Musk is explicitly talking about a "public-private partnership". I think any project on the scale of Mars colonization is necessarily going to be intimately entangled with one or more governments.
Many nations with dystopian origins are fine now, sure, but there was a lot of suffering along the way; I don't think it's unreasonable to want to prevent that.