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Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by keithwhor on Saturday September 24, 2016 @04:31AM (#12570063)
Dead serious. "Cool" is all this product needs to be successful. People buy sunglasses. People like Snapchat. At $129 this is a no-brainer. Don't underestimate the power of social signaling.
Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by yolesaber on Saturday September 24, 2016 @11:41AM (#12571338)
> Don't underestimate the power of social signaling.

You mean the social signaling that is going to brand these users as "glassholes" as well?

>At $129 this is a no-brainer.

Please step out of your tech bubble. Most snapchat users are teenagers or college-age persons who absolutely do not have $129 to drop on a pair of novelty sunglasses.

Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by dilap on Saturday September 24, 2016 @01:53PM (#12571841)
Kanye did one of his popup stores near my house recently. Line of teenagers two blocks long waiting to buy $400 T-shirts. If it's cool, they'll find the $.
Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by yolesaber on Saturday September 24, 2016 @02:15PM (#12571916)
Kanye is cool and his clothes have massive resale value. Clunky nerd gadgets spotlighted in the WSJ have neither.
Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by dilap on Saturday September 24, 2016 @11:07PM (#12573715)
snapchat is cool. whether these glasses will be cool...who knows, but they certainly have a good shot at it.
Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by nwjtkjn on Saturday September 24, 2016 @01:59PM (#12571856)
These are the same teenagers/college-age persons who own $600+ iPhones.
Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by yolesaber on Saturday September 24, 2016 @02:15PM (#12571918)
Most phones are subsidized by wireless contracts.
Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by Johnny555 on Saturday September 24, 2016 @04:59PM (#12572618)
Cell phones aren't subsidized, they are just financed over 2 years (with the payment often hidden in your monthly cell phone bill). If the price of the glasses is a problem (I doubt it is), they could be financed the same way "Just give us $11/month for a year and you can have them today!"
Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by vonmoltke on Saturday September 24, 2016 @09:58PM (#12573510)
That's becoming more common but is not universal yet. Phones often still are subsidized, even when the buyer is still paying something for the phone.
Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by maxerickson on Saturday September 24, 2016 @10:05PM (#12573530)
The phone-sized early termination fees put the lie to it being any sort of subsidy.

(for "subsidy" to be a reasonable description of the flow of funds, the phone company would probably have to be losing money on the most expensive phones; of course they aren't. They provide the phone up front with a minimal payment, but they have structured the monthly fees to more than cover their costs for doing this.)

Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by vonmoltke on Saturday September 24, 2016 @10:26PM (#12573591)
Except they charge me the same rate if I already have my device as the person in the long-term contract, just without the early termination fee. If they have structured the locked-in person's contract to cover hardware costs then they have structured mine for that as well, despite the fact that I didn't get hardware from them. Therefore, I am paying part of the hardware costs for the people who buy phones from the provider; i.e. I am subsidizing them.

Furthermore, early termination fees are constant for all contracts. The person who got the $150 phone has the same termination fee as the person who got the $600 phone. Thus again, someone is subsidizing someone else.

Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by maxerickson on Saturday September 24, 2016 @11:17PM (#12573754)
I'm pretty sure that people using paid for hardware are just more profitable than people that are still paying for hardware. But they make income on all the people.

And the fees aren't necessarily the same for cheaper phones:

https://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/return-policy/

Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by berberous on Saturday September 24, 2016 @11:59AM (#12571411)
Cheaper than a pair of raybans, which are fairly ubiquitous. If they are successful, the price will drop too. If the hardware is minimal, and people like the design, why not buy these instead of whatever other sunglasses they were going to buy and get a fun toy as well?
Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by yolesaber on Saturday September 24, 2016 @12:11PM (#12571458)
Raybans actually look nice and maintain their value. These look like they were designed by a committee that googled "cool millennial"
Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by memonkey on Saturday September 24, 2016 @12:13PM (#12571464)
All the young 20 something year olds that I know are still not dropping $120 on sun glasses unless they are young college graduated professionals. Most are not. And I'm a 28 year old professional that wears $10 knock offs.
Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by Disruptive_Dave on Saturday September 24, 2016 @09:37AM (#12570860)
I'm with you on the idea that "cool" and "lifestyle" sell, especially when they're backed by celebs. That said, Snapchat isn't a lifestyle product, it's an app. Moving from pocket to face is a monumental transition with monumental challenges, but certainly one worth trying. My money says the glasses never become mass adopted but maybe Snapchat - sorry, Snap - learns a few things along the way that set it up for success with Hardware Product #2.
Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by tedmiston on Saturday September 24, 2016 @12:16PM (#12571469)
And hardware product #2 could be an interface with even less friction.

Remember Memoto? — The lifelogging camera that clips on your shirt; it looks like they're called Narrative now [0].

If Snapchat owns the camera hardware they have total control over analytics. They could become the platform for sharing daily moments. At some point, that's what Facebook was, except there was always an app layer in-between.

[0]: http://getnarrative.com

Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by AJ007 on Saturday September 24, 2016 @11:42AM (#12571340)
The trendy end of fashion always looks ridiculous after it falls out of style. Snapchat still has the trendiness that Google and Facebook lost long ago. If you think otherwise, find a few 20 year olds (outside of tech) and ask them what they think of Google, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, Instagram, and Snapchat.

Facebook probably can still use Instagram's brand, so that is an edge over Google. If they can do it soon enough while resisting branding the hardware as "Facebook" is another matter. That also means they probably have to already be close to releasing a finished product.

The larger question to me is who will have the stamina to thrive in the post-smartphone era? Snapchat may be able to break to ice and get a lot of people to wear something weird and clunky. By generation two or three, what happens if Apple, Magic Leap, or someone else is able to produce a more refined & seamless wearable? To "win" Snapchat will have to produce an incredibly robust AR headset that no one thinks twice about wearing all day long.

Other commenters are correct, the article reads like a shameless press release.

Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by smokeyj on Saturday September 24, 2016 @04:47AM (#12570119)
Reads like a full page ad by the WSJ. Uncool on multiple levels.
Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by mgiannopoulos on Saturday September 24, 2016 @07:42AM (#12570529)
The price is quite right. The design remains to be tested in real environments with real people. Let's not forget the reactions to Google Glass. Framing (pun intended) of the intended use will be everything
Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by ams6110 on Saturday September 24, 2016 @09:30PM (#12573429)
No, they look ridiculous. If anyone walked up to me wearing those I'd have to really restrain myself from ripping them off their face and stepping on them. At the very least they'd get a laugh.
Re:Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles by ENGNR on Sunday September 25, 2016 @12:04AM (#12573900)
That's pretty much the intention, they're only supposed to be worn at special events so it's super overt that you could be filming