Re:Akamai takes Brian Krebs’ site off its servers after ‘rec...
by godzillabrennus on Thursday September 22, 2016 @11:41PM
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I'm surprised that the Azure or Google Cloud teams aren't on top of this. They want tech people to pay attention to their stacks, why not host a high profile site like this to gain the respect of the industry?
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Re:Akamai takes Brian Krebs’ site off its servers after ‘rec...
by tomlock on Thursday September 22, 2016 @11:54PM
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I feel like Brian Krebs is a public good at this point. Would love to see Google foster a better web by hosting him!
Re:Akamai takes Brian Krebs’ site off its servers after ‘rec...
by toss1941 on Friday September 23, 2016 @12:40AM
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They should, and get agreements with CDN's / ISP's to forego charges in case of a DDOS. If anyone could pioneer such an agreement, it would be Google.
Re:Akamai takes Brian Krebs’ site off its servers after ‘rec...
by nolok on Friday September 23, 2016 @06:26AM
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You want them to push the idea that isp and other middle men networks should not be dumb pipes, but charge a different pricing depending on traffic type and intent?
Your comment may have the best of intentions, but that's how you take net neutrality out the window.
Re:Akamai takes Brian Krebs’ site off its servers after ‘rec...
by mastax on Friday September 23, 2016 @12:34PM
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New way to get on google for free: make an AMP site. Until they start charging for that at least.
Re:Akamai takes Brian Krebs’ site off its servers after ‘rec...
by neurostimulant on Friday September 23, 2016 @01:51AM
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Considering they charge per GB data transfer, even if your site survive the attack you'll get an amazingly expensive bill at the end of the month.
Re:Akamai takes Brian Krebs’ site off its servers after ‘rec...
by mixedbit on Friday September 23, 2016 @03:16AM
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For both Google and Amazon the cheapest transfer you can have is 0.02 USD/GB, which in case of such attach gives 5.5k USD / hour, or 400k USD for three days of the attack.
Re:Akamai takes Brian Krebs’ site off its servers after ‘rec...
by kijin on Friday September 23, 2016 @07:00AM
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That's for outgoing (egress) transfer. Incoming (ingress) transfer is free with both Google and Amazon, and a DDoS attack is mostly incoming.
Re:Akamai takes Brian Krebs’ site off its servers after ‘rec...
by Jweb_Guru on Friday September 23, 2016 @01:57PM
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Amazon's actual ELB IPs can handle relatively little traffic, "prewarming" is required in order to add more ELB instances--during a DDOS attack, you'll be overwhelmed almost instantly. Route 53 uses DNS round robin, which is trivial to bypass if you're planning on a DDOS attack (by targeting a specific IP). Google actually gives you an anycast IP, so they're a better option.
All that being said: the idea that only ingress traffic matters during a DDOS attack isn't quite right. If the connections are legitimate, you either need to be able to detect the attack attempts (requires expensive coordination and mitigation techniques, especially if the attack is much larger than what a single NIC can handle) or actually serve back the content (which will make your egress skyrocket).
Re:Akamai takes Brian Krebs’ site off its servers after ‘rec...
by kalleboo on Friday September 23, 2016 @11:38AM
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You just have to make sure your infrastructure doesn't try to auto-scale up to actually handle all the traffic or suddenly you have thousands of high-powered instances to pay for...
Re:Akamai takes Brian Krebs’ site off its servers after ‘rec...
by jraedisch on Friday September 23, 2016 @02:12AM
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There could be something like a DDoS insurance.
Re:Akamai takes Brian Krebs’ site off its servers after ‘rec...
by tdy721 on Friday September 23, 2016 @02:43AM
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Insurance only works when you can get good coverage (lots of premiums being paid). Akamai and CloudFlare are DDoS insurance, and BK just got dropped.
You don't see insurance companies rushing in after a disaster, this is no different.