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Re:The Building Blocks of Japanese Cuisine by SamBam on Thursday September 22, 2016 @02:42PM (#12559097)
Agree, and this is the case world-over.

Coming from Italy, I'm always amazed how large US tomatoes/zucchini/eggplants/etc are, and those big, watery vegetables are almost always tasteless in comparison.

I think it's a combination of selecting varieties that produce bigger fruit, as well as waiting longer to pick, so as to produce the largest (most water-heavy) produce.

Re:The Building Blocks of Japanese Cuisine by bootload on Thursday September 22, 2016 @06:20PM (#12560821)
"Coming from Italy, I'm always amazed how large US tomatoes/zucchini/eggplants/etc are, and those big, watery vegetables are almost always tasteless in comparison."

From Melbourne, @SamBam what do think is the reason?

My own personal observation, growing both Roma and large Beaf steak variety tomatoes in a home plot, is it's a combination of cultivar and heat. I agree on variety chosen. The commercial varieties are combinations of size, colour, season and preservation. Not necessarily taste. So it maybe the sugar content.

Leave the tomatoes in that sun, pick them when they are ripe and the taste is there. Back at the supermarket, picked early and cooled... not so much flavour.

Re:The Building Blocks of Japanese Cuisine by rabboRubble on Friday September 23, 2016 @12:36AM (#12562345)
Don't remember the size of Japanese tomatoes. I suspect they are probably similarly sized otherwise I'd have some sort of feeling about them.

I only saw zucchini for sale once in Japan and, for what is nearly a prolific weed -- can hardly give away all zucchinis if you have one plant, the zucchini cost like $10 a piece so I refused to buy them.

The most commonly sold variety of eggplant in Japan is the Italian type which is hardly sold in the US and naturally smaller than the US standard regular / classic type. So not really comparable.

Cucumber variety is also different. The US normally sells straight 8 type. The Japan variety is, I think, a Japanese cucumber and a different type. So not comparable.

Re:The Building Blocks of Japanese Cuisine by mattnumbe on Friday September 23, 2016 @03:41AM (#12562968)
>zucchini cost like $10 a piece

Out of season? We buy them for 100 yen, which is still more than free, but they they taste better than the huge ones I've had in the US.

Tomatoes tend to be beefsteak, so not very good for sauces, but big and nice in salads, or mini tomatoes.

Re:The Building Blocks of Japanese Cuisine by rabboRubble on Friday September 23, 2016 @07:50PM (#12568719)
May have mentally added a zero to the price :-)

Considering they aren't my favorite, anything above a yen is too much.

Re:The Building Blocks of Japanese Cuisine by tptacek on Thursday September 22, 2016 @09:21PM (#12561666)
The problem is less commercial growing and breeding and more that US consumers have no notion of seasonality, and will happily buy asparagus in September and tomatoes in March. It doesn't help that Italy has a longer tomato growing season than most of the US.
Re:The Building Blocks of Japanese Cuisine by eli_gottlieb on Friday September 23, 2016 @10:19AM (#12564792)
>The problem is less commercial growing and breeding and more that US consumers have no notion of seasonality, and will happily buy asparagus in September and tomatoes in March.

I mean, in our defense, if we actually ate mostly or only what was in season locally, we would mostly live on squash, beans, bread, and potatoes. Real, tasty vegetables are just plain difficult to grow across much of the country, and shipping from the places with easy growing to the places with difficult growing brings in all the tradeoffs of trucked produce.