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Re:Google backtracks on privacy promise with messaging servi... by LeoPanthera on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @09:30PM (#12553666)
The big software companies may not be able to figure it out, but the big hardware companies don't care. This is where the salvation of e2e must come from, and we're already seeing it with Apple, where iMessage has been e2e for a long time.

It's not perfect, Apple can still tweak the system to control the keys if they wanted to (not that I believe they would) but it's a really good start.

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Re:Google backtracks on privacy promise with messaging servi... by rglullis on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @09:34PM (#12553687)
Can I use iMessage from my non-Apple computer? Would Apple be willing to open up its protocol or to implement in other platforms so that it could be universally adopted?
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Re:Google backtracks on privacy promise with messaging servi... by karmelapple on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @09:40PM (#12553702)
Not officially. That still doesn't negate the point that hardware companies like Apple have already started e2e encryption. The poster also mentioned it's not perfect; full cross-platform support would presumably be one of those areas that could get it more perfect.
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Re:Google backtracks on privacy promise with messaging servi... by dingo_bat on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @09:51PM (#12553750)
Whatsapp is also e2e encrypted. And they aren't hardware at all.
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