Re:Google backtracks on privacy promise with messaging servi...
by LeoPanthera on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @09:30PM
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The big software companies may not be able to figure it out, but the big hardware companies don't care. This is where the salvation of e2e must come from, and we're already seeing it with Apple, where iMessage has been e2e for a long time.
It's not perfect, Apple can still tweak the system to control the keys if they wanted to (not that I believe they would) but it's a really good start.
Re:Google backtracks on privacy promise with messaging servi...
by rglullis on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @09:34PM
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Can I use iMessage from my non-Apple computer? Would Apple be willing to open up its protocol or to implement in other platforms so that it could be universally adopted?
Re:Google backtracks on privacy promise with messaging servi...
by karmelapple on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @09:40PM
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Not officially. That still doesn't negate the point that hardware companies like Apple have already started e2e encryption. The poster also mentioned it's not perfect; full cross-platform support would presumably be one of those areas that could get it more perfect.
Which means that it won't matter which channel people are using to talk to each other, they will have to find a way to be a conversation point on each other's channels - e.g, Have a Google Bot on Facebook Messenger and Whatsapp and Skype and Telegram, and the others doing the same. By that point, the whole thing gets unbelievably stupid, and it will be better for everyone to just give up on building the walled gardens and go back to networks based on interoperable, federated open standards.
I made a "ask HN" [1] post because I am involved in this space, and I wonder if people here would be willing to put up with the loss of privacy or if they would be willing to pay for a chat service. I would appreciate if people could share some thoughts.
[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12553221