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Re:Don't Call Yourself A Programmer, And Other Career Advice... by olalonde on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @03:55PM (#12551651)
> certification [...] accountability [...] unions

Basically, what defines a "real engineer" has pretty much nothing to do with engineering? I'd rather define engineers as people who have the skill and know how to engineer.

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Re:Don't Call Yourself A Programmer, And Other Career Advice... by sammydavis on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @03:57PM (#12551674)
Food workers at the grocery story have all 3 of those (maybe weak on accountability other than losing their job), and they aren't engineers.
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Re:Don't Call Yourself A Programmer, And Other Career Advice... by argv_empty on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @05:39PM (#12552502)
Those three are claimed as necessary conditions, not sufficient conditions. I agree that "engineer" also implies some degree of technical skill (like understanding the difference between sufficient and necessary).
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Re:Don't Call Yourself A Programmer, And Other Career Advice... by crpatino on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @05:45PM (#12552553)
And chickens have two legs. But it does not make you a chicken, does it?
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Re:Don't Call Yourself A Programmer, And Other Career Advice... by olalonde on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @04:02PM (#12551721)
That is pretty much my point.
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