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Re:Don't Call Yourself A Programmer, And Other Career Advice... by NikolaeVarius on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @03:38PM (#12551508)
This is absolutely inane. Do you think that the FE/PE only focuses on things that you do every day?

It's to give the world hard proof that you actually UNDERSTAND what is happening and allows you to actually accept responsibility to create things that may actually affect peoples lives. Sure its useless if all you do is work on a react/angular app, but not all software is your standard CRUD app.

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Re:Don't Call Yourself A Programmer, And Other Career Advice... by blowski on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @03:45PM (#12551572)
Of course a lot of software is much more complicated than simple CRUD apps. I don't touch them because it would be irresponsible for me to do so.

But there's no clear line where an app stops being CRUD and starts being something more, so there's no clear line where you stop needing a CRUD programmer and start needing a software engineer.

There are some that clearly need certification, and often that is an explicit requirement of the job.

Just don't get too hung up on the job title. Managers want to believe their software is so complicated that they need a software engineer to build it. I'm happy to go along with their delusions if they pay me.

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