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Re:World's largest Internet exchange sues Germany over mass ... by mtmail on Saturday September 17, 2016 @12:30PM (#12521155)
It's said to be a new control/review committee, probably without the rule to be transparent, and hasn't been created yet. As the article says it's already deemed unconstitutional before it even started.

German source: "Die Kontrolle soll stattdessen nur noch nachlaufend durch ein neues Spezialgremium erfolgen." https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/NSA-Skandal-und-BND-...

Update: the existing control committees for G10 (article 10 of Grundgesetz = German constitution) are staffed with members of the parliament and one has to be lawyer. I don't think that makes it a court, maybe it's just a matter of translation.

German source on G10 committees https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artikel_10-Gesetz#Verfahren

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Re:World's largest Internet exchange sues Germany over mass ... by dogma1138 on Saturday September 17, 2016 @12:57PM (#12521271)
If the committee performs a judicial review which in this context I am understanding it does it is technically a "court".
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Re:World's largest Internet exchange sues Germany over mass ... by pgeorgi on Saturday September 17, 2016 @02:19PM (#12521673)
It's not a judicial review, the PKG (parliamentary control committee) and the G10 Kommittee, which is a subset of the PKG, both consist of members of Parliament, and they do the same work (keeping an eye on the executive branch's work) - just for efforts whose information is considered too sensitive for wider distribution.
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Re:World's largest Internet exchange sues Germany over mass ... by dogma1138 on Saturday September 17, 2016 @05:11PM (#12522477)
My german is a bit rusty but doesn't "gerichtlicher prüfung" translates into "court examination" or more precisely "judicial review"?
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Re:World's largest Internet exchange sues Germany over mass ... by pgeorgi on Sunday September 18, 2016 @06:39AM (#12524766)
"Die anstelle gerichtlicher Prüfung des Sachverhalts vorgesehenen politischen Kontrollgremien haben sich in der Vergangenheit aber oft als unzulänglich erwiesen:"

translates to (while keeping the sentence structure the same as much as possible, even if that sounds a bit off in english):

"The, in place of judicial review of the factual matter, arranged political control committees have shown in the past to often be insufficient:"

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Re:World's largest Internet exchange sues Germany over mass ... by germanier on Sunday September 18, 2016 @02:17AM (#12524180)
The Wikipedia article states (correctly) that there is no judicial review in the usual case. The parliamentary committee does not perform that.
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