Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud Platform

Re:Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud ... by blackoil on Thursday September 15, 2016 @01:46PM (#12508197)

If MS plays its cards well, .NET can take a decent marketshare from of Java. C# as a language seems more polished and friendly then Java/Scala. MS has some of the best compiler/language folks in industry. Next couple of years should be interesting, with .net core, VSC, typescript and all OSS, lets see if MS is able to capture any developer mindshare.

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Re:Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud ... by MichaelGG on Thursday September 15, 2016 @06:32PM (#12510403)

Why didn't MS buy Sun? It seems like far more a natural fit, and would have shored them up against Oracle very nicely. MS even had a full Java compiler for .NET (and they still have a JavaScript one IIRC).

They were able to toss dozens of billions at Nokia. 25 for LinkedIn. Billions for Skype after bungling MSN Messenger into the ground (which would have also served as a perfect start for a real social network, including work!). But they couldn't find 6bn for Sun?

Was it just antitrust? Or were they that clueless?

.NET is pretty solid. F# is probably the "best" language once you figure in tooling, features, performance, libraries. If they made F# a first-class VS citizen, then it'd really be hyper competitive, but I guess they're hesitant to undermine C#. I've run F# on Linux for many years now and it's been pretty good. With Rust covering the true high-perf/no-runtime scenarios, I feel like I've got things well covered.

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Re:Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud ... by BinaryIdiot on Thursday September 15, 2016 @01:59PM (#12508318)

Yes! The only reason several projects I worked on used Java was due to its ability to run on several platforms (especially Linux). .Net is a very solid framework with C# being absolutely awesome and, in my opinion, far better than Java.

I'm excited I may be able to play with C# again in the very, very near future.

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Re:Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud ... by blackoil on Thursday September 15, 2016 @02:24PM (#12508518)

Also in my limited interaction, C# community has a very positive vibe and is noob friendly. I rarely see a discussion about any superiority over other language/stack/companies. Even the topline guys like Anders Hejlsberg are very humble and have strong empathy with a lowliest developer.

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Re:Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud ... by indianapolis92 on Thursday September 15, 2016 @04:42PM (#12509654)

> I'm excited I may be able to play with C# again in the very, very near future.

Can't you just install windows as everybody else and start playing with your programming languages of choice?

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Re:Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud ... by BinaryIdiot on Thursday September 15, 2016 @04:51PM (#12509714)

I mean yes but that's an awful lot of effort and storage space taken up to install it and I don't have much storage left. I would much rather use it natively on Mac OS X and Linux with the option of deploying to Windows or Linux. When it's as flexible as Java in that way I'm going to use it :)

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Re:Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud ... by indianapolis92 on Thursday September 15, 2016 @05:18PM (#12509894)

I don't think you'll get a visual studio build for linux or osx. That would mean making desktop .net cross platform and it's not in microsoft agenda. So i think you'd better wait until java becomes as awesome as c# is for you already :)

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Re:Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud ... by zeppelin101 on Thursday September 15, 2016 @05:27PM (#12509947)

.NET Core & Visual Studio Code are current options, too.

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Re:Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud ... by rpeden on Thursday September 15, 2016 @06:22PM (#12510340)

JetBrains' Rider is looking really good in private beta, too. The last e-mail they sent out mentioned that the public preview version will be out soon.

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Re:Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud ... by BinaryIdiot on Friday September 16, 2016 @02:38PM (#12516248)

I didn't realize this was a thing! Thanks! I'm looking forward to trying it out.

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Re:Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud ... by viggity on Thursday September 15, 2016 @02:28PM (#12508539)

microsoft already has massive developer mindshare, but unlike elixir/elm/node/flavor-of-the-month the mindshare exists with 9-5ers or dark matter devs. The kinds of people who use it to get shit done but don't spend time blogging about it.

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Re:Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud ... by blackoil on Thursday September 15, 2016 @02:33PM (#12508573)

Yes, but more is merrier. They have negligible presence in colleges, startups, big data... Also Web development outside enterprise is entirely linux. So they have lots of area for landgrab.

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Re:Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud ... by Scarbutt on Thursday September 15, 2016 @06:25PM (#12510355)

mindshare exists with 9-5ers

That just reads as if they have a much less enthusiastic community.

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Re:Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud ... by criddell on Thursday September 15, 2016 @10:20PM (#12511464)

Now that you mention it, I think that's actually true. When some adapter needs to be written to connect one system to another, nobody is doing it because that's what they are passionate about (I'm starting to hate that phrase) or because they are scratching an itch. They are doing it because somebody will pay them to do it.

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Re:Making ASP.NET apps first-class citizens on Google Cloud ... by UK-AL on Friday September 16, 2016 @04:12PM (#12516986)

I think you massively underestimating how widely used .net is.

It's probably 2nd just after Java.

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