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Re:Show HN: A minimalistic cloud provider by anderiv on Thursday September 15, 2016 @01:20PM (#12507969)

  $ whois datamantle.com | grep "Name Server"
     Name Server: NS1.DREAMHOST.COM
     Name Server: NS2.DREAMHOST.COM
     Name Server: NS3.DREAMHOST.COM
Hrm...using dreamhost for their nameservers. Interesting choice.

  $ whois $(dig +short datamantle.com) | grep OrgName
  OrgName:        Google Inc.
Not dogfooding their own service? I think I'll pass.
Re:Show HN: A minimalistic cloud provider by ars on Thursday September 15, 2016 @03:42PM (#12509172)
> Not dogfooding their own service? I think I'll pass.

The opposite. If they went down no one would be able to view a status page.

It's actually best practice NOT to host your site on your own network.

Just like you should not use an email address @ the same domain you are registering. If your domain had a problem they could not email you at that domain.

Re:Show HN: A minimalistic cloud provider by corobo on Thursday September 15, 2016 @02:40PM (#12508633)
If their service goes down I'd rather their site stay up to tell me when they're back to be fair.
Re:Show HN: A minimalistic cloud provider by datamantle on Thursday September 15, 2016 @01:54PM (#12508269)
Honestly, it's the network capacity / DDoS. Hence why we are using Google to host the site.

Name-servers? Yeah, we need to change that, but dreamhost was simply the first register we used for the site so we kept it the same. We'll be switching to the same nameservers as our rdns host soon.

Re:Show HN: A minimalistic cloud provider by jjkmk on Thursday September 15, 2016 @01:37PM (#12508127)
Whats wrong with using Dreamhost for nameservers, does it make any difference at all?
Re:Show HN: A minimalistic cloud provider by cookiecaper on Thursday September 15, 2016 @01:53PM (#12508264)
I've used Dreamhost as my primary registrar for something like 15 years now and generally I've used them for DNS too. Their nameservers and DNS updating is pretty wonky. Really slow to update and admins that insist the update made in the Control Panel has fully propagated across their internal nameservers when it clearly hadn't. Had to wait hours for it to actually propagate out to their real public-facing nameservers a few times. Not worth it, especially when you just need to make a quick change.

I basically quit using Dreamhost for any hosting-related activities other than DNS a long time ago. Even though my shared account is old and so it supposedly has unlimited everything, it's throttled to like 300k (I assume all shared plans are). Also not worth it in the age of the $5/mo VPS.

I flirted with Hover as a registrar for a few names but didn't like it either.

I've started using Route53 for all DNS-related services, including name registration, and I'm happy with it. Wish I didn't have to pay the registration fee again to move all of my domains over to Route53 or I'd be off DH completely by now.

Re:Show HN: A minimalistic cloud provider by tholford on Thursday September 15, 2016 @01:50PM (#12508230)
Not the op of that comment, but in my experience, DH is something to be avoided :) it's been a few years, but still have unpleasant memories of cryptic errors, stability issues, and a clunky control panel.
Re:Show HN: A minimalistic cloud provider by chubot on Thursday September 15, 2016 @03:19PM (#12508981)
What hosting providers in that range are better?

I'm fairly satisfied with them, but I only really use static web hosting for low traffic sites. Apparently their mailing list services go down all the time.

Compared to the hosting provider I used over a decade ago, 1and1, Dreamhost is top notch... but I'd like to hear of anything better. I still believe in shared hosting!!!

Re:Show HN: A minimalistic cloud provider by kej on Thursday September 15, 2016 @02:06PM (#12508363)
Also that time they messed up their auto-billing and stole $7 million from their customers.
Re:Show HN: A minimalistic cloud provider by Shakahs on Thursday September 15, 2016 @05:21PM (#12509910)
"Stole" is very misleading. Yes, their billing system had a bug and charged a bunch of customers in error. But DH handled it very well, were very transparent about what happened, refunded all the money (of course), and even went so far as to reimburse people that incurred overdraft fees.
Re:Show HN: A minimalistic cloud provider by kej on Friday September 16, 2016 @08:08PM (#12518325)
"Even went so far as to reimburse people"!? They directly caused those people to lose money! Of course they reimbursed them; the alternative would have been to reimburse them after a slam dunk legal case.

Dress it up however you like, they took $7 million that wasn't theirs.

Re:Show HN: A minimalistic cloud provider by hundchenkatze on Sunday September 18, 2016 @11:01PM (#12528548)
And then they gave it back, that doesn't seem that bad. They made a mistake, and they fixed. No one is perfect.