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Re:Angular 2 Final Released by bluetwo on Thursday September 15, 2016 @10:21AM (#12506360)
I have to agree with you.

HTML5, CSS3, and Javascript have matured to the point where they are very powerful and flexible. I don't always see the point of over-complicating things with frameworks.

Re:Angular 2 Final Released by hatsix on Thursday September 15, 2016 @04:41PM (#12509651)
I recently built a small three 'page' game for a trade-show booth. By using Ember, I was able to: try out a new CSS framework based on flexbox, save data to localstorage, capture images from the webcam, have 'data binding' of variables so that they updated on the page when I changed them, and deploy to surge.sh in the first hour.

All-told, it took 20 hours, 7 of which was me getting used to the intricacies of developing a full-screen "App" (no scrolling) with flexbox and implementing the designs. I'm good with vanilla JS, but there's no way I could have done all of the coding (three 'game' pages, three 'admin' pages) in less than two days.

I guess the point is, a framework that you know and are familiar with can halve the time you spend on a project. I find that to be especially true with Ember because of the CLI tools and all of the various addons.

Re:Angular 2 Final Released by skhavari on Thursday September 15, 2016 @12:42PM (#12507630)
Yes, they are very powerful and flexible. These frameworks actually payoff and simplify once your project grows beyond a particular size.
Re:Angular 2 Final Released by officialchicken on Thursday September 15, 2016 @01:11PM (#12507890)
> once your project grows beyond

"Premature optimization is the root of all evil."

- Donald Knuth