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Re:The Death of the Cyberflâneur by kazinator on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @07:12PM (#12493002)
> While not deliberately concealing his identity, the flâneur preferred to stroll incognito.

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> However, anyone entertaining such dreams of the Internet as a refuge for the bohemian, the hedonistic and the idiosyncratic probably didn’t know the reasons behind the disappearance of the original flâneur.

If the flâneur is operating incognito ... how the hell can you be sure he is actually gone? Maybe he just upped his flâneurism game and dropped off your flâneuradar.

People do still just surf the web instead of trying to only get stuff done---that's how we get interesting submissions on HN and why we are here to rummage through them.

Twenty years ago I might have surfed the web for fun, but picked up the phone to get stuff done; now I can just use the Internet for most of that latter thing too.

Re:The Death of the Cyberflâneur by ernestosoo on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @12:22AM (#12494216)
You are missing the main point, man. I am sure you never experience the internet in the 1990's or early 2000's. You must live in a very parochial place! You don't know anything about arts, films, music.

This website is one example. I like this website because there is something that is "HIS". He owns his individuality.

http://www.novaexpresscafe.com/main.html

It is not just about information. It is about aesthetics! The fun of flaneuring! Surfing the internet for spontaneity!

Re:The Death of the Cyberflâneur by kazinator on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @02:31AM (#12494640)
> I am sure you never experience the internet in the 1990's

That sort of guessing tends not to pan out very well around here. I used Mosaic under XWindow in 1993.

Re:The Death of the Cyberflâneur by ernestosoo on Thursday September 15, 2016 @03:00PM (#12508815)
That is pretty cool. Do you have any websites that make you feel nostalgic for the past? Any interesting websites in 1990's and early 2000's as well?
Re:The Death of the Cyberflâneur by kazinator on Friday September 16, 2016 @02:05PM (#12515960)
I'm user #1483 on Slashdot. That still exists, and I hardly ever go there though. Before the Slashdot era, I don't remember having visited some particular site regularly to see updating content.

But, oh, I got one: http://suck.com. That stopped making new content in 2001, but existed for another 14 years. Now the domain seems to have been taken over.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suck.com

Re:The Death of the Cyberflâneur by npiazza83 on Thursday September 15, 2016 @10:06AM (#12506212)
I had a wonderful nostalgia trip when a friend shared this yesterday: http://www.ouverture-facile.com/start/

THIS is what the web USED to be...

Re:The Death of the Cyberflâneur by okwhatthe2 on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @12:33PM (#12498679)
This is really good parody.
Re:The Death of the Cyberflâneur by jack_rabbit on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @01:04AM (#12494343)
Hackernews is itself one of these arcades that have supposedly disappeared. We're the flâneurs.
Re:The Death of the Cyberflâneur by forgottenpass on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @10:42AM (#12497334)
We're the flâneurs.

I thought about reddit and subreddits while reading this article (and HN is just an off-brand subreddit), and I can't disagree more.

These kind of websites are funnels that can satiate someone's need for novelty, while exposing them primarily to pages and ideas that a sub-community assembled around and collectively agree upon. The exploration hits a hard wall of very diminished returns once the explorer meets the sub-culture and the ideas they like.

In many ways, the links in my Facebook timeline are a better vector for exposure to new things because my IRL friends and relations are a wider variety of people than congregate in a subreddit (or other specific social forum).

Re:The Death of the Cyberflâneur by jack_rabbit on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @01:18PM (#12499182)
I see your point.

(from the article) "... the whole point of the flâneur’s wanderings is that he does not know what he cares about."

There is definitely a theme to the articles that show up here. However, I've been visiting this site for a fairly long time and still find it a good starting point for discovering new sites and information I haven't seen before. It is still rather like browsing the windows of shops.

Maybe reading HN alone doesn't make a flâneur, but I don't really see the variety of it as being a problem. Old web rings used to have topics or themes in the same way. Even so, HN is not the only site I browse in this way and I assume the same is true of most of the people here. As it is with this site, the others provide convenient jumping-off places for exploring, even if the kind of content that shows up has a loose theme to it.

Does that collectively build a very similar experience? I think it does. The format is a bit different, but the effect is the same.

Maybe the trouble is that places like HN have a less exploratory feel than browsing used to? Now you have a decent idea of what you're going to be seeing when you click a link. A web ring's "Next" button might have a more exciting or adventurous feel to it, but people used to use BBSes for the same thing as we now use HN and others.

Maybe its that the kind of links that flood the web today are seemingly mostly to websites operated by businesses? Personal webpages seem few and far-between now, and that gives the web a different feel. People still "surf" or explore what's out there like they have in the past, though.

It seems that the thrust of the article is that more people are doing things like never leaving Facebook when on the web. They get their content embedded in a Facebook frame. This is true. People like my mother are on Facebook and are likely not going to be doing any flâneuring. But this is different from saying that nobody does anything other than that.

In fact, I'd bet there are more people than ever doing actual surfing. They just make up a smaller percentage of the overall web user population than they used to because so many people are now on the web.

Re:The Death of the Cyberflâneur by ernestosoo on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @02:09AM (#12494561)
Yeah! But there is no aesthetics here at all! There is no sense of wonder and magic whatsoever!

This is a cool website here!

www.davidrumsey.com