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Re:Soaring Student Debt Prompts Calls for Relief by dragonwriter on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @06:51PM (#12492887)
> How would one repossess an education?

You can't.

> Isn't that the reason student loans are not dischargeable?

No.

First, student loans are, in fact, dischargeable, though there is a higher bar to discharging them. So expalanations of why they are not dischargeable are unnecessary (and necessarily incorrect.)

But, more to the point, unsecured loans in general are dischargeable without the heightened requirements that apply to student loans; not having something to repossess isn't a difference between student loans and other unsecured loans, so cannot explain the difference in treatment.

Re:Soaring Student Debt Prompts Calls for Relief by dpark on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @11:20PM (#12494039)
> First, student loans are, in fact, dischargeable, though there is a higher bar to discharging them. So expalanations of why they are not dischargeable are unnecessary (and necessarily incorrect.)

Explanations of why they are more difficult to discharge is certainly necessary, though.

I'm also curious how student loans can be discharged except via death of the lendee. It probably happens, but I don't personally know anyone who has discharged subsidized student loans in bankruptcy. (I do know people who have discharged unsubsidized private student loans in bankruptcy.)

Re:Soaring Student Debt Prompts Calls for Relief by undersuit on Thursday September 15, 2016 @01:52PM (#12508254)
>I'm also curious how student loans can be discharged except via death of the lendee.

I work in the industry, some of the ways you can have your student loans discharged are:

False Certification (Ability to Benefit): For forgiving a borrower's loan based upon a false certification of the borrower's ability to receive benefits to attend college because he/she doesn't have a GED or high school diploma.

False Certification (Disqualifying Status): For forgiving a borrower's loan based on the borrower's disqualifying condition(s) for the degree.

False Certification (Unauthorized Signature/Unauthorized Payment): For forgiving a borrower's loan based upon endorsement or certification of the promissory note, disbursement, or application by an unauthorized person.

School Closure: For forgiving a borrower's loan based upon a school closure that prevents the borrower from completing his/her degree or program.

Unpaid Refund: For forgiving the borrower's loan because the borrower's school did not provide the correct refund to the borrower's lender.

Teacher Loan Forgiveness Forbearance: For borrowers who are eligible for the Teacher Loan Forgiveness program and whose entire outstanding balance will be forgiven at the end of their fifth year of teaching in a qualifying school.

Total and Permanent Disability: For borrowers who are unable to repay their Federal Family Loan Program student loans due to total and permanent disability (as defined by the U.S. Department of Education).

Re:Soaring Student Debt Prompts Calls for Relief by dragonwriter on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @02:10AM (#12494563)
Regarding discharge, the standard in bankruptcy is "undue hardship": http://www.studentloanborrowerassistance.org/bankruptcy/

(Also, "borrower" is the more usual term, rather than "lendee".)

Re:Soaring Student Debt Prompts Calls for Relief by dpark on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @02:30AM (#12494635)
Thanks for the reference. I'm thankfully no longer carrying student loan debt, but it's good to see that we haven't completely blocked the ability to clear these debts via bankruptcy.

(Also, agree on "borrower". It's late and I'm exhausted and all I could come up with was "lendee".)

Re:Soaring Student Debt Prompts Calls for Relief by Jimmy on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @08:28PM (#12493398)
>>How would one repossess an education?

>You can't.

Yet. ;)

Re:Soaring Student Debt Prompts Calls for Relief by tbihl on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @11:57PM (#12494153)
Isn't that one of the options for the people who paid for ITT? Full refund only if they repossess your credits.
Re:Soaring Student Debt Prompts Calls for Relief by undersuit on Thursday September 15, 2016 @02:03PM (#12508345)
I'm not aware of how ITT loan discharge will proceed[1] but they shut down because they didn't want to keep the necessary amount of cash on hand so that if they did shut down they could forgive all the loans their current students were issued.

[1] <https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/about/announcements/itt/faq>

Re:Soaring Student Debt Prompts Calls for Relief by Jimmy on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @06:42AM (#12495565)
I was implying that we'll one day have the technology to selectively erase memories with high precision and reliability.