Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by csydas on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @01:26PM
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Mmm, I'd agree but the parent is specifically talking about surveillance, not about all human rights, and it's true - the US likes to condemn cyber-espionage and surveillance while simultaneously spying on the entirety of the planet and attacking/infiltrating the planet as it sees fit.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by mafribe on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @01:26PM
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Human Rights Watch being an American organisation, led by a member of the US power elite (e.g. Goldman Sachs, Soros' OSF) might have something to do with it?
Nah, perish the though!
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by fulafel on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @01:42PM
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HRW funding and staff indeed looks surprisingly US-biased. But Amnesty and PEN also score the US a couple notches above Russia and China.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by _rc2w on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @05:44PM
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As someone who resides in the USA, I'd rather China or Russia have access to my data, regardless of any abuse of human rights. Unlike the US, they're extremely limited in how they can use my data to harm me.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by kevin_thibedeau on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @07:27PM
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The problem is that they can sell your data to someone more interested in targeting you specifically. If that happens within the US there is a means to litigate the guilty parties. Outside, you're SOL.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by igivanov on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @05:37PM
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You don't need to look there, at all. Just look at the US aggressive wars and subversive activities in this century, e.g. Iraq, Libya and it becomes clear that the value of human rights abroad from the US point of view is exactly 0.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by threeseed on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @08:07PM
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Iraq was a disgrace but bringing up Libya means you are either ignorant or being disingenuous. Gaddafi had imminent plans to commit another cleansing of the opposition. It was always going to be a lose-lose situation for human rights. Doing nothing is not always the right answer.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by babayega2 on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @01:01AM
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It's better to state the reality not the myth sold by USA : Ghadafi wasn't about to commit anything else than what US allies have already done.
Now Libya is a failed state thanks to US and HRW lies.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by stana on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @09:54PM
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So how do you rate the situation in Libya before and after Gaddafi?
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by fdgdasfadsf on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @02:17AM
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Bad with him there. Much worse with him gone.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by igivanov on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @10:45AM
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By calling Iraq a disgrace you are effectively calling the 9/11 a micro-disgrace. That's how these two differ in the order of numbers of lives lost.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by nyddle on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @02:05PM
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Human Rights Watch. By Americans for Americans.
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Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by y4mi on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @04:22PM
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i hope you're kidding or trolling.
the current situation with incarcerations in america sounds horrible, yes, but its a far cry from systematically eradicating millions of people per year...
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by joesmo on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @12:47AM
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Really? I don't see much difference. Slavery is slavery. Torture is torture. Rape is rape. The first two are legal in prison and all three are widely practiced as punishment. Yes, you have a better chance of surviving our prisons, but by that point, your life is ruined and pretty much over anyway. There are much worse things than death.
[0] https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2016