Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by bobuk on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @12:35PM
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Yandex is a public company with stocks on NASDAQ. Can you ever imagine how it is hard to hide bribes inside of public company budget? :)
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Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by avar on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @12:52PM
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Just give someone a big performance bonus with the understanding that part of it is to be used on bribes? Seems rather easy.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by bobuk on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @01:52PM
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Nope, both salaries and bonuses (even on C level) is too low in Russia to hide any amount of bribe in them. Anyway, I never heard about bribes for electricity for last 5 years in Russia.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by elmigranto on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @03:11PM
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> salaries and bonuses (even on C level) is too low in Russia to hide any amount of bribe in them
Let's say someone claims that their programmer genius Ivan saved a company ~1m USD/year with latest commit; and awards him $100k. And you see this unusual bonus, how are you going to know 99% of that doesn't go to someone other than Ivan?
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by bobuk on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @06:06AM
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Typical Ivan with good developer skills costs $30k/year in Moscow. But you are right, theoretically it is possible to hide some money if you really wants to. As far as I know there's no big non-gov companies who spend something on bribes right now. May be it's because I too believe in humankind.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by johansch on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @02:24PM
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I think you're an advanced version of a putinbot :).
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by maddiez on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @07:54PM
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He's an employee of Yandex, well-known in the Russian dev community.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by bobuk on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @06:00AM
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Well-known? Thanks :)
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by pbarnes_1 on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @12:41AM
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Not very. International listings don't need to abide by normal US listing regulations for financial reporting.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by johansch on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @12:51PM
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Two words: "consultancy services"
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by bobuk on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @01:49PM
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You can check it on sec.gov. Yandex spend nothing on consultancy for 2014 and 2015 years
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by johansch on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @02:23PM
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I can't be bothered to dig right now, but you're saying that a company with 5000+ employees did not use any consultants at all, zero, for 2014 and 2015? I really can't believe that.
Edit: there are many ways to hide bribes, of course. Typically it involves overpaying for something. It would be hard for even a non-corrupt tax authority to tell the difference between having bad negotiation skills and bribes.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre...
by bobuk on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @06:02AM
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My point is "big non-government companies in Russia doesn't pay any bribes". But you're right, it's definitely possible do hide some amount of bribe money if you really want to.