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Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by bobuk on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @12:23PM (#12489741)
Oh no, at least not now. Electricity and land so cheap today in Russia, what Yandex starts to build and sell their datacenter to provide "cheap AWS alternative for Russian companies".
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by johansch on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @12:27PM (#12489784)
But how about the bribes (to get e.g. electricity)?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/12/business/global/12ikea.htm...

Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by fpoling on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @04:19PM (#12491868)
Bribes for infrastructure is not how modern days high level corruption works in Russia. What happens is that for various preferences that a company receives from the state like tax rebates, cheaper electricity etc. one pays back to the official who authorized the deal. The payment (otkat or "rollback" in Russian) is typically indirect, like using a supplier or outsourcing to a company where the official or their relatives have a stake.

The direct bribes is really for low-level clerks like police officers or fire hazard inspector s.

Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by bobuk on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @12:35PM (#12489878)
Yandex is a public company with stocks on NASDAQ. Can you ever imagine how it is hard to hide bribes inside of public company budget? :)
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by avar on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @12:52PM (#12490063)
Just give someone a big performance bonus with the understanding that part of it is to be used on bribes? Seems rather easy.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by bobuk on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @01:52PM (#12490641)
Nope, both salaries and bonuses (even on C level) is too low in Russia to hide any amount of bribe in them. Anyway, I never heard about bribes for electricity for last 5 years in Russia.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by elmigranto on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @03:11PM (#12491311)
> salaries and bonuses (even on C level) is too low in Russia to hide any amount of bribe in them

Let's say someone claims that their programmer genius Ivan saved a company ~1m USD/year with latest commit; and awards him $100k. And you see this unusual bonus, how are you going to know 99% of that doesn't go to someone other than Ivan?

Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by bobuk on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @06:06AM (#12495405)
Typical Ivan with good developer skills costs $30k/year in Moscow. But you are right, theoretically it is possible to hide some money if you really wants to. As far as I know there's no big non-gov companies who spend something on bribes right now. May be it's because I too believe in humankind.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by johansch on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @02:24PM (#12490941)
I think you're an advanced version of a putinbot :).
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by maddiez on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @07:54PM (#12493222)
He's an employee of Yandex, well-known in the Russian dev community.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by bobuk on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @06:00AM (#12495377)
Well-known? Thanks :)
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by pbarnes_1 on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @12:41AM (#12494277)
Not very. International listings don't need to abide by normal US listing regulations for financial reporting.
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by johansch on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @12:51PM (#12490056)
Two words: "consultancy services"
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by bobuk on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @01:49PM (#12490616)
You can check it on sec.gov. Yandex spend nothing on consultancy for 2014 and 2015 years
Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by johansch on Tuesday September 13, 2016 @02:23PM (#12490932)
I can't be bothered to dig right now, but you're saying that a company with 5000+ employees did not use any consultants at all, zero, for 2014 and 2015? I really can't believe that.

Edit: there are many ways to hide bribes, of course. Typically it involves overpaying for something. It would be hard for even a non-corrupt tax authority to tell the difference between having bad negotiation skills and bribes.

Re:Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgre... by bobuk on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @06:02AM (#12495388)
My point is "big non-government companies in Russia doesn't pay any bribes". But you're right, it's definitely possible do hide some amount of bribe money if you really want to.