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Re:How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat by hammock on Monday September 12, 2016 @12:53PM (#12481345)
You can count flurochemicals as one. Ubiquitous in the water supply. No good way for water treatment nor the human body to remove them. Proven harm. Not much discussion today.

Also re toothpaste additive: Colgate Total still uses triclosan, which has been removed from pretty much every other product already and declared harmful by the FDA.

Re:How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat by biot on Monday September 12, 2016 @01:31PM (#12481737)
Your comment sounds like the FDA declared triclosan in Colgate Total to be harmful. That is not true: http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm205999.ht...

"For some consumer products, there is evidence that triclosan provides a benefit. In 1997, FDA reviewed extensive effectiveness data on triclosan in Colgate Total toothpaste. The evidence showed that triclosan in that product was effective in preventing gingivitis."

Re:How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat by hammock on Monday September 12, 2016 @02:32PM (#12482374)
The FDA proposed as early as 1978 to ban triclosan in consumer products.[1] The proposal was updated in 1994 but never finalized.

"At each stage of the proposed and tentative rulemaking process, the FDA has acknowledged that based on available scientific evidence, triclosan and triclocarban are not safe and effective, or there are insufficient data to evaluate safety and effectiveness."[2] (There are a number of studies you may find that show triclosan causing harm)

[1]https://www.nrdc.org/media/2013/131122

[2]http://www.hpm.com/pdf/Triclosan%20-%20NRDC%20MSJ.pdf

Re:How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat by biot on Monday September 12, 2016 @03:30PM (#12482879)
Thank you, I appreciate the links. So triclosan is:

  not (safe and effective) || insufficient data
From a cursory reading, I gather that it can/does cause harm during developmental years, making it unsuitable for children or pregnant/nursing mothers. However, I'm not sure how to evaluate the level of harm it introduces in something like toothpaste. Is it a similar level of harm as, say, aspirin or tea tree oil which are also known endocrine disruptors?

Note: I ask as I use Colgate Total myself and if harm >> benefits at the concentration levels found in toothpaste, then I have a vested interest in discontinuing its use. A doctor might advise a patient who has a genetic risk of heart disease to take small quantities of aspirin, just as a dentist might advise someone with a gingivitis risk to use triclosan-containing toothpaste -- in both cases, a determination of benefit:harm must be evaluated.

Re:How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat by hammock on Monday September 12, 2016 @03:51PM (#12483070)
Wow now I'm wondering about tea tree oil which I use myself. Have any links you can share?
Re:How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat by biot on Monday September 12, 2016 @04:52PM (#12483554)
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/lavender-tea-t...

“The results of our laboratory studies confirm that pure lavender and tea tree oils can mimic the actions of estrogens and inhibit the effects of androgens,” said Korach. “This combinatorial activity makes them somewhat unique as endocrine disruptors.”

The referenced study: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa064725

Abstract:

"Most cases of male prepubertal gynecomastia are classified as idiopathic. We investigated possible causes of gynecomastia in three prepubertal boys who were otherwise healthy and had normal serum concentrations of endogenous steroids. In all three boys, gynecomastia coincided with the topical application of products that contained lavender and tea tree oils. Gynecomastia resolved in each patient shortly after the use of products containing these oils was discontinued. Furthermore, studies in human cell lines indicated that the two oils had estrogenic and antiandrogenic activities. We conclude that repeated topical exposure to lavender and tea tree oils probably caused prepubertal gynecomastia in these boys."

Re:How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat by tlb on Monday September 12, 2016 @01:37PM (#12481791)
"Effective in preventing X" doesn't mean it doesn't cause harm Y.
Re:How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat by biot on Monday September 12, 2016 @01:43PM (#12481852)
Sure, but if that were the case one should provide evidence of these harms instead of making statements that contradict what the FDA's own site claims.
Re:How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat by M_Grey on Monday September 12, 2016 @02:25PM (#12482288)
Or you could just avoid it on the basis that possible, minimal benefits that can be gotten through proper dental care aren't worth any potential risks at all.