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Re:Louisiana Judges Issue Harsher Sentences When the LSU Foo... by zo1 on Friday September 09, 2016 @01:08PM (#12464119)
Repair is only applicable when there is victim. The other point is that certain acts can not be meaningfully repaired/repaid within our current societal context. I.e. How do you measure the repayment or actions-required to repair a life that is taken by someone?

I would argue indentured servitude is a valid way to go, but it makes people uncomfortable because they see it as slavery. Yet, keeping someone locked up in an unproductive cage, to watch them wither away is somehow "rehabilitating" them. It's not, it's punishing them, it's revenge.

Re:Louisiana Judges Issue Harsher Sentences When the LSU Foo... by cloverich on Friday September 09, 2016 @01:31PM (#12464339)
> Yet, keeping someone locked up in an unproductive cage, to watch them wither away is somehow "rehabilitating" them.

I don't think most people claim its rehabilitation. I think the "rehabilitation" angle is political word play and would bet that most people who support harsh prison sentences see it (and support it) as punishment.

Re:Louisiana Judges Issue Harsher Sentences When the LSU Foo... by dTal on Sunday September 11, 2016 @02:59PM (#12474999)
There's an element of doublethink, yes. But the entire system pretends to be about rehabilitation. The language is everywhere. Even prisons are "correctional facilities". It's troublesome because it makes it difficult to have a conversation about actual rehabilitation.

Interesting question - why is the "political wordplay" even necessary?

Re:Louisiana Judges Issue Harsher Sentences When the LSU Foo... by hiddenkrypt on Friday September 09, 2016 @02:07PM (#12464655)
Many Prisoners are used as a source of virtually free labor already. Unfortunately this is being done as exploitation, without regard to how it may help or harm the prisoners used.
Re:Louisiana Judges Issue Harsher Sentences When the LSU Foo... by rndgermandude on Friday September 09, 2016 @03:06PM (#12465170)
Not just you would argue indentured servitude should be at least an option:

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

Re:Louisiana Judges Issue Harsher Sentences When the LSU Foo... by sangnoir on Saturday September 10, 2016 @05:16AM (#12468418)
> I would argue indentured servitude is a valid way to go, but it makes people uncomfortable because they see it as slavery

I don't see any discomfort presently, even though the constitution exempts prisoners from protection against slavery.The Thirteenth Amendment, Section 1: "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."[1]

1. Stolen from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2037139

Re:Louisiana Judges Issue Harsher Sentences When the LSU Foo... by bluehazed on Friday September 09, 2016 @02:59PM (#12465120)
> I would argue indentured servitude is a valid way to go, but it makes people uncomfortable because they see it as slavery.

It's just slavery with extra steps.

Re:Louisiana Judges Issue Harsher Sentences When the LSU Foo... by zo1 on Friday September 09, 2016 @03:29PM (#12465372)
Extra steps? I'm not sure I follow.
Re:Louisiana Judges Issue Harsher Sentences When the LSU Foo... by e40 on Friday September 09, 2016 @04:16PM (#12465706)
It's a Rick and Morty (TV show) reference.

EDIT: 02x06 - The Ricks Must Be Crazy, it's a very good ep.