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Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by carlesfe on Thursday September 08, 2016 @04:10AM (#12451146)
Somebody said that before starting a startup you should evaluate what your competition is, and that includes Excel.

Many, many startups are competing against a moderately-complex Excel sheet, and they don't even know that.

Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by mcmoose75 on Thursday September 08, 2016 @05:11AM (#12451410)
Absolutely agree- however, in many cases these types of companies can still be decent businesses. Being able to work with and adjust "moderately complex" Excel sheets requires a certain level of training and skill- often these startups can remove the requirement for expertise to perform a task, which can be worth quite a bit to a business.
Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by TeMPOraL on Thursday September 08, 2016 @05:13AM (#12451422)
The biggest feature of Excel is its flexibility. That moderately complicated spreadsheet can and does change all the time, to accomodate new requirements and optimize workflow. A startup (or the internal IT department) doing one-size-fits-all solution can't really do that.
Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by elmigranto on Thursday September 08, 2016 @05:50AM (#12451574)
> The biggest feature of Excel is its flexibility

This is probably its biggest flaw also — chances are you don't need all that flexibility within a scope of particular spreadsheet; and sometime you may prefer a solution that was specifically targetting this exact usecase.

Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by emodendroket on Thursday September 08, 2016 @08:40AM (#12452399)
Yeah, but a programming language would be even more flexible, and yet nobody says they don't need software because they have all the tools to implement its functionality themselves.

In fact, I worked on a project that largely aimed to replace a bunch of internal spreadsheets because giving groups a spreadsheet to maintain is a little like handing Phaeton the reins to Apollo's chariot.

Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by TeMPOraL on Thursday September 08, 2016 @09:24AM (#12452714)
Sure a programming language would be even more flexible, but it does not have an instant feedback loop like Excel does. Not to mention that the extra flexibility comes with the cost of dealing with all the arcane bullshit programming involves - toolchains, APIs, what have you. Excel is flexible enough to be useful by non-tech people and doesn't bring in so much cruft.
Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by emodendroket on Thursday September 08, 2016 @02:14PM (#12455582)
My intent was to highlight the flaws of the argument that Excel is better because it is more flexible with a more extreme example.
Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by ChoHag on Friday September 09, 2016 @08:11AM (#12461400)
> Yeah, but a programming language would be even more flexible

Then it's convenient that Excel both is a and has a programming language, eh?

Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by cm2187 on Thursday September 08, 2016 @04:19AM (#12451174)
I am frustrated I can only upvote once!
Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by snowwrestler on Thursday September 08, 2016 @01:18PM (#12454984)
If HN were an Excel sheet, you could upvote as many times as you want! :-)
Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by cm2187 on Thursday September 08, 2016 @04:33PM (#12457009)
I could automate in VBA me upvoting. Try to do that in a business application!
Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by carlesfe on Thursday September 08, 2016 @10:26AM (#12453287)
Upvotes mean nothing, displays of gratitude mean a lot. Not my quote, but I'm glad you liked it!
Re:You Suck at Excel with Joel Spolsky (2015) [video] by davidivadavid on Thursday September 08, 2016 @11:57AM (#12454192)
Many startups are a nicely designed version of an Excel built-in template.