Yep, and everyone else will drop the headphone jack for USB-C. The headphone jack is dead.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/27/11516410/intel-usb-c-audio...

Apple really can't change ports again. I think they're really going to push for wireless. When they get wireless charging they'll remove the lightening port.

People really need to study the timeline here. Lightning was out year(s) before USB-C ever got certified.

I also suspect that's one of two reasons that Apple hasn't shown an inclination to move to USB-C for devices that currently have Lightning ports -- the switch from the 30-pin dock connector to Lightning caused an awful lot of screaming. It's kind of a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation from a PR perspective: people are beating them up here on HN for pushing Lightning audio, but if they'd announced they were moving from Lightning to USB-C and dropping the analog headphone jack? They don't have that much Courage™.

The second reason is that the physical USB-C connector is thicker than the Lightning connector. Not by much, but it really is; in fact, it's about as thick as...a 3.5mm headphone jack. Right then. (This is also why the wildcard option of putting both a Lightning connector and a USB connector on the phone was a non-starter.)

I know there's an argument to be made that it's all about the Benjamins, that Apple just wants licensing money and maybe to wave around the DRM boogeyman. Maybe, but I honestly think that's more of a happy bonus for them than an overriding consideration. They're control freaks who don't like to share with others, but they're regularly on board with non-proprietary standards when they think that's what makes a better product. Remember, they were one of the first major companies out of the gate with a USB-C (only!) computer, and Apple was involved with the design of the USB-C connector.

My Nexus 5x has USB-C connector next to a 3.5mm headphone jack. The headphone jack appears to be 50% wider.

I don't think that changes the point. The parent is saying that there's a difference between dropping a universal standard in favor of a closed standard.

There's a legacy connector in every box. All your legacy headphones still work. Apple didn't want to add an additional port and they can't exactly switch to usb-c at this point. In 3 years when all other phone makers drop the headphone jack for usb-c, can we get a lightning to usb-c?

And the parent is making a wrong assumption. Apple is not pushing lightning as the new audio standard. That's just a stopgap for people who insist or have the use case for wired headphones. The audio standard they're replacing it with is Bluetooth.