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Re:‘Superbug’ scourge spreads as U.S. fails to track rising ... by toss1 on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @02:35PM (#12445849)
OK, so somebody's tracking it in secret, doing the 'antibiotic susceptibilities' tests and logging the results, and the state health dept receives the data, but the info is being kept from the patients' relatives and from the public in general?

This creates two obvious results. 1) suppression of legitimate claims from relatives, and 2) suppression of valid concern and pressure for govt action such as increased research funding.

How is this good?

Re:‘Superbug’ scourge spreads as U.S. fails to track rising ... by daveloyall on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @03:35PM (#12446626)
I'm not saying it is good. I'm just saying that there is more than one thing going on here.

I don't think hospitals have any motivation to hide antibiotic-resistant infections ("superbugs") specifically. HOWEVER, the motive to hide hospital-acquired infections[0] is clear!

Here's some mud in the water: what's the difference between a HAI with some bug that is easily killed by antibiotics vs. an antibiotic resistant bug?

As for "tracking it in secret", that's one way to put it, but it will cloud your thinking. :) Your own medical records--specifically blood test lab results--have your name, address, and phone number on them. Consider replacing the word 'secret' with 'private' and re-working the whole thought.

0: http://www.cdc.gov/hai/

Re:‘Superbug’ scourge spreads as U.S. fails to track rising ... by InternetPerson on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @09:46PM (#12449599)
You start out by saying that the article is "misleading", and that MRSA is tracked. The article is pretty convincing that it's not accurately reported.

Then you agree with the article that "the motive to hide hospital-acquired infections is clear".

Uhh... That's kind of a huge problem.

Re:‘Superbug’ scourge spreads as U.S. fails to track rising ... by daveloyall on Thursday September 08, 2016 @11:40AM (#12454027)
Well yeah. But hey, I'm no journalist.

I stand by my assertion that nobody is trying to "hide" the "superbug" problem.

The human tendency to not self-report failures is a thing. But it's not some kind of biohazard conspiracy.

And one more thing about the death certificates...

    > In a statement emailed to Reuters, Frieden said: 
    > "While death certificates provide helpful 
    > information, the unfortunate reality is that they
    > don't provide in-depth clinical information."
I'm guessing that Frieden, the boss of the whole CDC, went on to say something like: "But it makes sense, because death certificates are primarily legal records. The clinical information lives in medical records." OR, OR, something more accurate. That's why he gets the big bucks. :)
Re:‘Superbug’ scourge spreads as U.S. fails to track rising ... by InternetPerson on Thursday September 08, 2016 @06:04PM (#12457767)
Well, you know more about this space than I do. So maybe it's not so bad...

But the article sure makes it sound like hospitals are hiding MRSA-related deaths, since MRSA infections are often "hospital acquired". And we all agree that hospitals would have an incentive to hide these numbers.

And the apparent under-reporting seems to indicate that this is in fact what's going on. This sounds like a problem! Thanks a lot, dishonest hospitals!

Re:‘Superbug’ scourge spreads as U.S. fails to track rising ... by mirimir on Thursday September 08, 2016 @02:33AM (#12450737)
Yes, as the article points out:

> There’s also a powerful incentive not to mention a hospital-acquired infection: Counting deaths is tantamount to documenting your own failures. By acknowledging such infections, hospitals and medical professionals risk potentially costly legal liability, loss of insurance reimbursements and public-relations damage.

Re:‘Superbug’ scourge spreads as U.S. fails to track rising ... by toss1 on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @04:48PM (#12447526)
Yes, I totally get privacy, and I'm glad to read that you're not saying it is good.

It's the hiding it in public records such as Death Certificates, information given to the family, and performance statistics that I find suspicious.

Re:‘Superbug’ scourge spreads as U.S. fails to track rising ... by dv_dt on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @02:52PM (#12445997)
In particular, a potential patient might want to know MRSA case rates when selecting hospitals or other medical treatment facilities.
Re:‘Superbug’ scourge spreads as U.S. fails to track rising ... by apathy on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @05:45PM (#12448068)
Or (perhaps more likely) Medicare/Medicaid and/or private insurers might start penalizing the ones that are screwing it up (by renegotiating contracts and reimbursements). I know of one center where executive laziness led to a $2 million fine (completely unjustified) for a line infection in an immunosuppressed patient. Which was cleared up in hours, probably didn't come from the line to begin with, and got said executive fired (because if there's one thing hospital "leadership" understands, it's money).

Actually I have all sorts of examples of the above, but the point is that oftentimes the data is "corrupted" on the way to the collection point(s). Anyways, the executive (VP of some bullshit) got his walking papers and funnily enough, no more reportable line infections that didn't come from lines.

So at least sometimes there are happy endings, sort of...

Re:‘Superbug’ scourge spreads as U.S. fails to track rising ... by thr0waway1239 on Thursday September 08, 2016 @02:09AM (#12450651)
Sorry, I am a little confused. Why was it a happy ending? Because the VP was just a titular post? Also, looking at your comment, it reads like the problem went away not because the hospital improved, but because the data stopped being reported. This does not look like a happy ending either. And if the line infection was cleared up in hours, how did it also "probably didn't come from the line to begin with"?
Re:‘Superbug’ scourge spreads as U.S. fails to track rising ... by apathy on Thursday September 08, 2016 @07:25PM (#12458363)
The VP was a douche and the "line infection" was almost certainly not from a line in the first place. The patient was on IST, so calling any random opportunistic infection a central line infection is (at best) irresponsible.

Reporting incorrect data can be worse than reporting nothing at all. Here are the guidelines: http://www.cdc.gov/nhsn/pdfs/faqs/faqs-v-6_clabsi.pdf

CLIs are only supposed to be reported when the central line can reasonably be implicated as the vector and the blood is the primary infection site. Neither was established.

As far as cleaning up procedures, there will always be room for further improvement, but that's no reason to accept a $2 million fine (which still had to be paid) as a cost of doing business when the "root cause" was incorrect reporting.