News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Flightradar24 ADS-B Receivers On-board a Surface Ocean Robot by MrBuddyCasino on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @07:32AM (#12442410)
If I had to guess, something with finance. Observing meatspace logistics allows one to draw certain conclusions earlier than the rest of the market.

Right now, there are people observing chinese factories, reporting number of shifts etc. to some guy in a remote office.

Re:Flightradar24 ADS-B Receivers On-board a Surface Ocean Robot by dingaling on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @07:48AM (#12442501)
That's a big one but FR24 isn't as useful for that nowadays as they mask private aircraft on request of the owners. Private tracking networks are more relevant now.[0]

Conversely, many aviation enthusiasts are more interested in hyperlocal tracking where FR24 again loses-out to tightly-focused private networks.

So it's really aiming to position itself as a (1) business solution for fleet management and (2) for general travellers who aren't concerned with watching 'special' traffic but want to see where is their delayed United flight.

[0] However many of the same operators who have their aircraft publically hidden or masked also use FR24 for managing their own fleets as it's much cheaper than subscribing to datalinking through SITA or whatever.

Re:Flightradar24 ADS-B Receivers On-board a Surface Ocean Robot by seanp2k2 on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @07:50AM (#12442515)
They do it with satellites too, e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_Bella

Indeed what a way to spend your short life, chasing currency by watching parking lots empty and fill while clicking buttons to move sums of digital funds around.

Re:Flightradar24 ADS-B Receivers On-board a Surface Ocean Robot by CPLX on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @08:52AM (#12442941)
As opposed to making the world a better place by optimizing remote databases to speed the distribution of semi-nude selfie photographs or something?

Don't know how to break it to you, but I am pretty sure we're all just on a very brief stint scurrying around pointlessly on a rock near an unregarded yellow sun located at the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy.

Re:Flightradar24 ADS-B Receivers On-board a Surface Ocean Robot by hueving on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @09:24AM (#12443154)
>As opposed to making the world a better place by optimizing remote databases to speed the distribution of semi-nude selfie photographs or something?

Yes, that's not the same thing if you believe that people should generally work towards improving social utility[1]. It takes some significant mental gymnastics to convince yourself that getting a market edge over other funds to improve your hedge fund's performance at the expense of theirs is improving social utility. It's just concentrating wealth from some rich people (one fund's shareholders) to other rich people (your fund's shareholders). Maybe if you're lucky you'll even be taking money from retirement accounts.

Even if you argue that someone else would take the money if you didn't, that's not enough to offset the loss of so many people doing something so wasteful from an intelligence perspective. The current incentives draw significant portions of intelligent people away from doing something constructive for society (science, medicine, engineering, math) to competing in an information game for rich people.

1. https://www.quora.com/What-is-social-utility

Re:Flightradar24 ADS-B Receivers On-board a Surface Ocean Robot by CPLX on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @09:46AM (#12443298)
It doesn't take mental gymnastics at all. One could easily make the argument that market intelligence improves the allocation of capital and makes the world more productive. One could also argue that creating web apps for wealthy westerners is even less useful to society. One could note that being a subsistence farmer doesn't really contribute to anything or leave much of a mark for the future at all, and be ok with that too. All of these are just ways of surviving, and none of them seem particularly indefensible morally. You gotta do something to get by.

As for your link to Quora, that's a completely incomprehensible rant, just FYI.

Re:Flightradar24 ADS-B Receivers On-board a Surface Ocean Robot by hueving on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @11:56PM (#12450203)
Ok, try to make that argument. How is pouring the limited resources of very intelligent people into deriving information correlated with unreleased sales figures making the market that much more efficient to offset that cost? It's effectively the same thing as having them wiretap company executives, just much less efficient.

Just FYI, it was an explanation of the term 'social utility'.

Re:Flightradar24 ADS-B Receivers On-board a Surface Ocean Robot by digi_owl on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @08:24AM (#12442739)
Supposedly one early use of radio telegraphs were to mount them on speedboats and race out to meet freighters. This to give the stock traders a early insight into the cargo coming.
Re:Flightradar24 ADS-B Receivers On-board a Surface Ocean Robot by anotheryou on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @07:43AM (#12442475)
haha, the stock market is such a funny game. thanks