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Re:A Seattle vigilante who beats the police to bike thieves by Animats on Monday September 05, 2016 @06:21PM (#12432539)
If the brokers aren't being found, the police aren't doing their job. GPS trackers for bicycles are now down to $47.[1] When you find more than one stolen bike at one location, you've got something.

This worked for cars. Lojack, with their hidden transponder, caused a significant reduction in auto thefts. Lojack claims a 90% recovery rate. The main problem for bicycles is battery life. Someone needs to design a system which needs almost no power until the bicycle is stolen.

Lojack, which is a pre-GPS technology, does something like that. Their unit normally isn't transmitting. It's just listening to FM broadcast station subcarriers for its own serial number. When a car with Lojack is stolen, Lojack, which is plugged into police stolen car databases, has their FM stations broadcast the serial number repeatedly. The addressed Lojack unit wakes up and starts transmitting. Lojack makes a deal with police departments to put Lojack receivers in police cars. These light up when there's a transmitting stolen car in range.

You could do this today by connecting a digital pager to a GPS/GSM location transmitter. The GPS/GSM unit is normally off, and only turns on when the pager wakes it up. You can get six weeks of standby time on a digital pager easily. Add a power-from-motion device and you could probably keep the pager running indefinitely, as long as the bike gets some use.

OK, IoT crowd, get moving.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Bicycle-GPS-Tracker-GPS305-Real-time/...

Re:A Seattle vigilante who beats the police to bike thieves by ourmandave on Monday September 05, 2016 @08:57PM (#12433075)
Heh, IoT.

Making bike thieves watch 30 seconds ads before they can disable the tracker would be vigilantism all right.

Re:A Seattle vigilante who beats the police to bike thieves by crispyambulance on Monday September 05, 2016 @07:18PM (#12432729)
Car-theft is alive and still doing quite well in spite of lojack and other technologies. Admittedly, cars today are harder to steal for a wide variety of reasons.

Knowing approximately where the bike is is only 1/3 of the battle. You still have to physically put your hands on it and remove it from whoever has it. I applaud the intent of a bike "lojack" but good luck getting the police to lift a finger when your bike tells you where it is.

That 50 bucks is better spent on a good U-lock upgrade.

Re:A Seattle vigilante who beats the police to bike thieves by rconti on Monday September 05, 2016 @09:52PM (#12433213)
Between 1993 and 2012, Property Crime has fallen from a rate of 4740 to 2859 per 100,000 inhabitants in the US. 2012's rate was 60% of 1993's rate. Burglary from 1100 to 670 (61%) Larceny from 3034 to 1959 (65%).

Compared to those dramatic declines (and yes, 1993 was a pretty bad year for crime in the US, but that's the FBI's stats), motor vehicle theft has fallen off a cliff.

In 1993 there were 606 per 100,000 inhabitants. in 2012 there were 230. The new number is 38% of the old number.

I hear about fairly advanced car thefts in the UK all the time (RFID cloning, etc), but it's a problem that virtually doesn't exist anymore in the US in the eyes of car enthusiasts. (Yes, 20 year old Honda Accord parked in the ghetto is still a target. But modern vehicles in relatively good areas are simply not something we worry about anymore).

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-...

Re:A Seattle vigilante who beats the police to bike thieves by Spooky23 on Monday September 05, 2016 @10:44PM (#12433366)
In olden times, stealing a car was trivial. Ditto radios, which had resale value.

Now it's parts. Wheels, airbags, bumpers, etc.

Re:A Seattle vigilante who beats the police to bike thieves by hnal943 on Tuesday September 06, 2016 @10:17AM (#12436152)
It's also to provide untraceable vehicles for other crimes. My city has a huge carjacking problem right now, and most of them are used as get away vehicles in other crimes.
Re:A Seattle vigilante who beats the police to bike thieves by gd2 on Monday September 05, 2016 @11:30PM (#12433485)
But we see a lot of smash the window and grab whatever bags are in the car in San Francisco.
Re:A Seattle vigilante who beats the police to bike thieves by uola on Tuesday September 06, 2016 @05:28AM (#12434616)
I think a better variation of that idea is embedding (or welding on) some sort of RFID chip in the frame that could be reported stolen or reprogrammed with a long code. Then you could search for stolen bikes in public places or put a automatic reader with a large siren on public bike paths and parking spots. Basically DRM for bikes.

It's might be challenging to make something that is cheap, long range (for RFID) and tamper proof of course.

Re:A Seattle vigilante who beats the police to bike thieves by pbhjpbhj on Tuesday September 06, 2016 @07:17AM (#12435125)
>embedding (or welding on) some sort of RFID chip in the frame //

Why not just a low tech BIN (Bicycle version of a Vehicle ID Number (VIN)) stamped in the frame on the upright. You could also have a QR version printed. A traffic warden then could scan a rack of bikes and find any "reported stolen" ones.

Bikes with no QR would look suspicious and you could check the BIN (as would QR-BIN not matching bike style, colour, location). The BIN could be changed, but then so could an RFID chip (or a tracker); ground off frames would also look suspicious and warrant additional investigation.

?

You'd have to convince bike manufacturers to add BINs to bikes, which is likely against their financial interests as they probably sell more new bikes if bikes are more often stolen.

Re:A Seattle vigilante who beats the police to bike thieves by enraged_camel on Monday September 05, 2016 @08:45PM (#12433029)
Lojacks are trivial to remove. They are one of the first things experienced car thieves look for, remove and dispose of.

A GPS device on a bike will be the same thing. You can't embed it into the frame either, since you as the legitimate owner need to replace its battery every now and then, which means it needs to be easily removable.

Re:A Seattle vigilante who beats the police to bike thieves by oftenwrong on Tuesday September 06, 2016 @10:01AM (#12436033)
>They are one of the first things experienced car thieves look for

If they are only effective against inexperienced car thieves, they still have value. It's like minor security measures that keep out script kiddies.

Re:A Seattle vigilante who beats the police to bike thieves by jclarkcom on Monday September 05, 2016 @08:57PM (#12433072)
Perhaps use rechargeable batteries and inductive charging
Re:A Seattle vigilante who beats the police to bike thieves by 1_2__3 on Monday September 05, 2016 @09:30PM (#12433157)
Briefly hook the frame up to a car battery and be on your way.
Re:A Seattle vigilante who beats the police to bike thieves by mrob on Tuesday September 06, 2016 @06:18AM (#12434835)
Put it inside the down tube. These usually have holes for mounting bottle holders, so you could pass the charging wires through the holes, disguised as part of the bottle holder mounts. And you'd have to remove the bottom bracket to get it out, which is slow and inconvenient.