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Re:The Donbass Paradox by finid on Sunday September 04, 2016 @09:07PM (#12427537)
> It was Putin who started the war against Ukraine by annexing Crimea.

What happened before Russia annexed Crimea? If you can answer that question honestly, you'll get to the root of that conflict. Just be honest with yourself.

Re:The Donbass Paradox by int_19h on Monday September 05, 2016 @02:09AM (#12428446)
It all depends on how far back you want to go. Before the annexation, there was a referendum, but before the referendum, there was de facto occupation by the "polite people" aka Russian forces with all identification tags removed (a war crime in and of itself, by the way).

Before the occupation, there was Maidan. And before Maidan, there was Yanukovich, whose achievements include stuffing the Supreme Court, and having it scrap the country's new 2004 Constitution and reverting to the old one, which, coincidentally, gave president a great deal more power than the new one.

We can go all the way back to Pereyaslav Rada if you want, but what's the point of the exercise? No matter how you slice it, Russia invaded and occupied a part of a sovereign country, and there was no genocide or other serious crimes against humanity ongoing there that could possibly justify such a thing.

Re:The Donbass Paradox by finid on Monday September 05, 2016 @04:33AM (#12428922)
If you stop at "Before the occupation, there was Maidan", then do a serious investigation of those behind the Maidan, you'll get the real answer.

Hints: John McCain went to egg them on (He was in Libya and Syria too). The US ambassador was handing out cookies to police officers. And then there's Victoria "Fuck the EU" Nuland - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

Re:The Donbass Paradox by int_19h on Monday September 05, 2016 @05:53PM (#12432420)
So what? Last I checked, there were Russian tanks in Crimea and Donbass. There were no US tanks in Kiev.

Or are you saying that tanks are an adequate response to cookies?

Re:The Donbass Paradox by dgudkov on Sunday September 04, 2016 @09:35PM (#12427604)
Whatever happened in Ukraine before the annexation of Crimea has absolutely no any relationship to Russia.
Re:The Donbass Paradox by qaq on Sunday September 04, 2016 @09:52PM (#12427650)
Putin once again failed in his attempt "to restore" USSR via more "peaceful" means 2nd time in a row was a bit too much for him so he snapped setting Russia on course which will likely bring the collapse of Russia similar to that of the USSR.