Ask HN: Will there be a better Google?

Re:Ask HN: Will there be a better Google? by rm999 on Saturday September 03, 2016 @01:56PM (#12420231)

I consider search an essentially solved problem and I think most people agree with me. When I want to find something I can usually use Google or Bing to get to it within 10 seconds or convince myself it doesn't exist. Will search get better? Probably, but going from 99% to 99.5% isn't very exciting to me.

If anything, I see Google and others moving in a direction of using context to reduce the amount people search (e.g. google now). I think this pattern is going to get much bigger in the coming years with better AIs and more information about what the user is doing.

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Re:Ask HN: Will there be a better Google? by simbalion on Saturday September 03, 2016 @04:10PM (#12420928)

I agree with what you've said but I wanted to add that there is room for improvement on Google's model. For example, selling page 1 results is unfair, but that is something google does.

I think DuckDuckGo is an example of how Google's methodology can be refined and improved upon, specifically by not spying on users. It's a subtle improvement, but I find the results I receive are actually superior and more relevant than Google's, plus I don't have to worry about who is watching my traffic.

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Re:Ask HN: Will there be a better Google? by FT_intern on Saturday September 03, 2016 @08:15PM (#12421933)

I don't think it's sustainable to not spy on users or to not serve ads. Keeping user data adds to relevancy and if there is no revenue, there are no relevancy engineers.

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Re:Ask HN: Will there be a better Google? by simbalion on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @11:22PM (#12450056)

That might be true, but web-search is an absolutely vital service for cultural health in the information age, like the telephone system used to be.

Every search engine does sell ads, which seems to be working for them all so far. If that ever stops working, we might see web-search become a public utility funded by tax dollars.

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Re:Ask HN: Will there be a better Google? by paulcole on Saturday September 03, 2016 @11:34PM (#12422541)

> plus I don't have to worry about who is watching my traffic.

Millions of people (myself included) use google and don't worry about this already. Online privacy isn't an issue (or a deal breaking feature) for the overwhelming majority of people.

DuckDuckGo may get niche business because their privacy stance, but it's not going to help them unseat Google.

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Re:Ask HN: Will there be a better Google? by simbalion on Monday September 05, 2016 @11:49PM (#12433547)

No you are right. It will be Google's continued inching toward a revised "do evil whenever it's profitable" business model that is going to unseat google. I mentioned DuckDuckGo because it seems it would be most likely to take the top search spot if Google were to die today.

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Re:Ask HN: Will there be a better Google? by kyloren on Saturday September 03, 2016 @02:56PM (#12420526)

I think there is an area of social search which remains largely untapped. This is because major social networks doesn't allow search engines to search their networks. I think Facebook tired to do this but they used Bing but have they used Google mmm maybe they would have been at social search but I don't think social search will be a thing if Facebook and other networks open up their network

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Re:Ask HN: Will there be a better Google? by cb21 on Sunday September 04, 2016 @02:43AM (#12423110)

Try to find a funny gif you saw a while ago and tell me again if you think search is a solved problem.

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