Re:Bugs found in GCC with the help of PVS-Studio
by 0xmohit on Friday September 02, 2016 @11:33PM
(#12417577)
I'd have loved to see references to actual GCC bug reports. Did I miss those in the article?
Thankfully, the world is changing. You have languages where variables are immutable by default or can be declared so that would prevent issues as http://www.viva64.com/en/d/0108/
Maybe gcc should do better for static analysis of a program. Expressions like `a && a` or `a == 1 || a != 2` should be caught easily.
Re:Bugs found in GCC with the help of PVS-Studio
by mtkd on Saturday September 03, 2016 @05:53AM
(#12418551)
a == 1 || a != 2 needs a warning but it's not necessarily a bug
sometimes I may keep overlapping expressions in a statement to remind me of the triggers I'm looking for at this point - and would likely use some meaningful constant names for the 1 and 2
statements aren't just logic - they're often documentation too - especially on code you might not look at again for months
I used to have many arguments with a professor whose code I was working on - he would factor out everything in an expression - removing all the parentheses and rely on operator precedence - it was often impenetrable (for me) - so I'd unpack it, wrap parentheses everywhere, change single letter vars to meaningful ones etc. - he'd be in my office an hour later ranting
Re:Bugs found in GCC with the help of PVS-Studio
by 0xmohit on Saturday September 03, 2016 @06:14AM
(#12418604)
> a == 1 || a != 2 needs a warning
Yes, it needs a warning because it's kind of obvious that there is something amiss about this expression. Only the author could tell what was specifically wrong.
Re:Bugs found in GCC with the help of PVS-Studio
by raverbashing on Saturday September 03, 2016 @06:33AM
(#12418647)
Yes
I would advocate for the maintenance of both expressions if the comparison is tricky
If this is a hot path that must absolutely be optimized then a comment explaining the conditions is needed
And of course, the != 2 question might change (either because of a bug or logic change) but the == 1 might still be valid, however, if you took the first one your change will break the code
Re:Bugs found in GCC with the help of PVS-Studio
by i_have_to_speak on Saturday September 03, 2016 @12:28AM
(#12417730)
If you're suggesting that discovery of a bug in a popular open source project holds the discoverer up to a moral responsibility of reporting it -- well then, maybe you are guilty too!
Re:Bugs found in GCC with the help of PVS-Studio
by rcthompson on Saturday September 03, 2016 @12:53AM
(#12417806)
There's no obligation to report a bug you've found, of course. But if you've taken the time to write a blog post about it, one would hope you've also taken the time to directly notify the software authors as well.
Re:Bugs found in GCC with the help of PVS-Studio
by ramshorns on Friday September 02, 2016 @11:29PM
(#12417570)
There's a mistake in the analysis of the ternary operator in the assert that doesn't check anything. Not only does the ternary ?: operator have lower precedence than the comparison <= operator, but it also has lower precedence than the logical && operator. So the expression inside the assert doesn't resolve to (die_offset > 0), it resolves to either 0xffff or 0xffffffff, both of which are true. The assertion really doesn't check anything at all.
Re:Bugs found in GCC with the help of PVS-Studio
by garbage_stain on Friday September 02, 2016 @07:59PM
(#12417047)
PVS-Studio (or more specifically Andrey) used to do a really nice program called "CppHints", where they would email a little tip each day (and later each week I think).
Anyway, I guess I just wanted to say, Andrey, I appreciated your work and enjoyed reading those tips! Thanks!
Re:Bugs found in GCC with the help of PVS-Studio
by AndreyKarpov on Saturday September 03, 2016 @03:38AM
(#12418179)
Not yet. We are now experimenting with C# support and with Linux support. What's next, we do not know yet. There are two perspective areas: Objective-C and Java.
Thankfully, the world is changing. You have languages where variables are immutable by default or can be declared so that would prevent issues as http://www.viva64.com/en/d/0108/
Maybe gcc should do better for static analysis of a program. Expressions like `a && a` or `a == 1 || a != 2` should be caught easily.
https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=71345
https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=77430
https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=64767
https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=77444
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And fixes have also started coming in:
https://gcc.gnu.org/viewcvs?rev=239959&root=gcc&view=rev
Kudos for investigating and reporting the issues.
sometimes I may keep overlapping expressions in a statement to remind me of the triggers I'm looking for at this point - and would likely use some meaningful constant names for the 1 and 2
statements aren't just logic - they're often documentation too - especially on code you might not look at again for months
I used to have many arguments with a professor whose code I was working on - he would factor out everything in an expression - removing all the parentheses and rely on operator precedence - it was often impenetrable (for me) - so I'd unpack it, wrap parentheses everywhere, change single letter vars to meaningful ones etc. - he'd be in my office an hour later ranting
Yes, it needs a warning because it's kind of obvious that there is something amiss about this expression. Only the author could tell what was specifically wrong.
I would advocate for the maintenance of both expressions if the comparison is tricky
If this is a hot path that must absolutely be optimized then a comment explaining the conditions is needed
And of course, the != 2 question might change (either because of a bug or logic change) but the == 1 might still be valid, however, if you took the first one your change will break the code
If it were a blog describing a 0-day vulnerability in a given software, I wouldn't have assumed that it would have been reported.
Anyway, I guess I just wanted to say, Andrey, I appreciated your work and enjoyed reading those tips! Thanks!
Andrey, any plans to support Objective-C? (You are flagging things I can't get clang to warn about.)
[0] http://pvs.csl.sri.com/index.shtml
I like that one.
"Bugs found in GCC with the help of PVS-Studio"