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Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by afarrell on Friday September 02, 2016 @02:42PM (#12415230)
I feel like there is a massive opportunity to be had here from managing and renting out these places.
Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by jandrese on Friday September 02, 2016 @02:48PM (#12415277)
People dumping hundreds of millions into the market just to hide it from external forces aren't interested in being landlords.
Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by tome on Friday September 02, 2016 @03:02PM (#12415380)
They don't want to make a few percent on their capital?
Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by pavel_lishin on Friday September 02, 2016 @03:16PM (#12415504)
People who can afford to buy overseas property for cash "just in case" are probably not worried about making an extra $3k/month, not if it adds the headache of being a landlord.
Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by Symbiote on Friday September 02, 2016 @03:28PM (#12415599)
Note that £20-45k/month (US$25-60k/month) is more like the going rate for these properties.

http://www.nestoria.co.uk/mayfair/property/rent/2?price_min=...

But either the owner isn't interested in the money/hassle/attention, or occasionally uses the property — it's difficult to show off your fancy London apartment if people are living in it, and you can't casually lend it to friends or relatives.

Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by puranjay on Friday September 02, 2016 @04:39PM (#12416104)
I reckon people with $25-60/month to rent out these properties would already have enough money to buy their own homes slightly away from the city center
Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by Symbiote on Saturday September 03, 2016 @04:15AM (#12418276)
They probably do, but that doesn't mean they want to live there.

I pay $2k to live in a city centre. I could pay half that to live at the edge of the city, but then I'd be at the edge of the city.

Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by jonknee on Friday September 02, 2016 @03:10PM (#12415442)
They probably don't want any more of a paper trail leading back to them than they have to.
Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by totalcrepe on Friday September 02, 2016 @03:32PM (#12415629)
A net zero property seems like it could generate less paperwork if the management balanced incomming and outgoing payments, (less their fee.)

How exactly do they pay utilities/etc without anyone noticing their transfers? But I don't believe they are successfully hiding anything in any case, governments want everyone to be guilty of something so they can achieve whatever political outcome they need through selective enforcement.

Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by GFischer on Friday September 02, 2016 @05:27PM (#12416404)
There are people that behave in ways I considered pretty irrationaly with their capital... and they work out.

If they're getting an absurd percentage increase from property values alone, an extra few percent won't make a difference.

Not everyone min-maxes their capital. Governments probably end up eating them through inflation and taxes in the long run (but in the long run, we're all dead).

Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by jandrese on Friday September 02, 2016 @03:42PM (#12415721)
Being a landlord is a huge hassle, and it makes the property harder to sell when you need the cash back.
Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by bduerst on Friday September 02, 2016 @03:47PM (#12415756)
Yep, tenants laws add a new layer of complexity to the asset, which as a wealth sink isn't really needed.
Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by hirsin on Friday September 02, 2016 @03:20PM (#12415539)
There's a better opportunity in buying rundown/condemned places and selling them for 4-6x to overseas money who apparently don't look before buying. See "crackshackormansion" below - everything that's not a mansion is just begging to be flipped.
Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by chadgeidel on Friday September 02, 2016 @02:44PM (#12415243)
I'm pretty sure foreign oligarchs aren't interested in AirBnB-style arrangements.
Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by pavel_lishin on Friday September 02, 2016 @03:17PM (#12415505)
Maybe afarrell wasn't talking about the oligarchs being the ones renting out the spaces.
Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by chadgeidel on Friday September 02, 2016 @03:53PM (#12415793)
That's a fair point, and this is merely my opinion, but if I could afford housing all over the world, I certainly wouldn't want to deal with the fact that I maybe cannot go visit London/NYC/wherever on a whim and stay at my own private residence. Renting has downsides even with "perfect renting arrangements" which cannot be mitigated by a third party (well, without presumably breaking an entire host of laws).
Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by pavel_lishin on Friday September 02, 2016 @08:48PM (#12417173)
That's kind of what I was jokingly suggesting; that the caretakers - who likely are the only ones who see the inside of the place for years - just surreptitiously rent it out from under the actual owner.
Re:Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London by crdoconnor on Saturday September 03, 2016 @06:42AM (#12418675)
Many of these properties are new builds and drop in value as soon as they are 'lived in'.