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Re:FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed from Consumer Soaps by fastball on Friday September 02, 2016 @12:19PM (#12414091)
What about cooking? e.g. handling raw meat and such?
Re:FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed from Consumer Soaps by infecto on Friday September 02, 2016 @12:24PM (#12414146)
Regular soap works perfect here. You just need something to help breakdown the lipids and remove from the surface of your skin.
Re:FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed from Consumer Soaps by deelowe on Friday September 02, 2016 @01:19PM (#12414590)
What's wrong with regular soap? It worked fine for decades.

You don't need to kill the bacteria. Just remove it.

Re:FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed from Consumer Soaps by busyant on Friday September 02, 2016 @01:31PM (#12414685)
Soap is a remarkably good antibacterial as well. Im on mobile but will try to look up refs for this later. I used to work in this area and a colleague was an expert on antibacterial properties of detergents.
Re:FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed from Consumer Soaps by vel0city on Friday September 02, 2016 @06:33PM (#12416747)
Yes, cell membranes are largely made of phospholipids. Soap can disrupt the membrane and essentially leak the contents of cells.
Re:FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed from Consumer Soaps by JumpCrisscross on Friday September 02, 2016 @04:36PM (#12416081)
> You don't need to kill the bacteria. Just remove it.

I'm pretty sure the lipid-dissolving properties of soap kill bacteria by shredding their cell membranes. It's not effective against viruses, but neither is antibacterial soap.

Re:FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed from Consumer Soaps by deelowe on Saturday September 03, 2016 @12:03PM (#12419675)
Thanks for the correction.
Re:FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed from Consumer Soaps by frandroid on Friday September 02, 2016 @12:23PM (#12414133)
We seem doing well with most workers in butcher shops and restaurants just washing their hands with regular soap.
Re:FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed from Consumer Soaps by initram on Friday September 02, 2016 @01:31PM (#12414683)
Are they, though? I suspect most butcher shops and restaurants are using antibacterial soap at this point. I go out of my way to try to buy non-antibacterial soap and it's often impossible to find. I imagine most businesses just order whatever's the first thing they see in the catalog/web site, and it's probably antibacterial because that's what most people think they want at home.
Re:FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed from Consumer Soaps by jjnoakes on Friday September 02, 2016 @05:33PM (#12416442)
Impossible to find? Where do you shop? Where I live, the non-antibacterial soap outnumbers the anti-bacterial soap 4:1 or more on the shelves.
Re:FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed from Consumer Soaps by Joof on Saturday September 03, 2016 @01:01AM (#12417829)
Can confirm that where I live near Houston it's very difficult to find.
Re:FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed from Consumer Soaps by Broken_Hippo on Saturday September 03, 2016 @05:53AM (#12418553)
It is actually more important to wash your hands properly than it is to use antibacterial soap. This is why most restaurants and medical facilities teach folks how to do it - and why some places install timers on their sinks. Basically, you need to lather for 10-15 seconds, making sure to get between the fingers, top part of the wrist, and your fingernails.

I've heard this action is actually more important than the soap bit for the anti-bacterial properties. But soap helps remove things like grease and 'juice' from the meat really well and helps us be less lazy when doing so.

Re:FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed from Consumer Soaps by afterburner on Friday September 02, 2016 @12:52PM (#12414395)
Well, if you're cooking, the bacteria on the raw meat and whatever you added with your hands get cooked. Most skin bacteria probably don't do too well in the mouth and stomach anyways.
Re:FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed from Consumer Soaps by ubercore on Friday September 02, 2016 @01:06PM (#12414498)
Cross contamination is almost always the concern here. Handle raw -> prepping vegetables for a salad, for instance. Or handling chicken then almost anything else.
Re:FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed from Consumer Soaps by ethanbond on Friday September 02, 2016 @02:48PM (#12415275)
Which is again handled by simply washing the bacteria off of your hands and down the drain.