I like this story. It emphasizes the error in the title. These seem to have been German horses, not Nazi horses. I see so many articles and books reference everyone and everything in the German armed forces of the time as "Nazi". The reality was complicated. There was much conflict as many in the armed forces felt they should remain politically neutral. This idea is not uncommon today. Many members of various armies go so far as to not vote while in active service. Others, notably in the US forces, see political detachment unpatriotic. This boils down to an officer within an older, politically detached force pulling a gun on an officer of a new and fanatically active force. There must have been many such stand-offs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_and_the_Wehrmacht

After the war, the Lipizzaners, both this group and the ones at the Spanish Riding School in Vienna, were rescued by US forces under Patton, who was a cavalryman before his tanker days.

A good horse is never the wrong color.

Most armies today are not involved in genocide so the parallel is not a very good one. The reality was complicated but the Wehrmacht was very much an essential and willing instrument of Nazism.

A precedent in Nazi horse-detection - in the mid 80s, it was reported that former UN Secretary General and then- Austrian presidential candidate Kurt Waldheim had been a member of an SA mounted unit. In response to Waldheim's denials, Chancellor Fred Sinowatz quipped that Waldheim 'hadn't been in the SA, only his horse had'.

I'm interested because we see similar divides within western forces in recent years. They aren't pulling guns on each other but there is an old guard with one set of values and a more political generation (post-9/11) with a very different cultural outlook.

The fact that a gun was pulled also points to a total breakdown of the standards of decorum armed forces reply upon to prevent internal arguments turning violent. This wasn't mutiny, but only because there was no clear mode to determine seniority between these two men.

Could you elaborate on this please? Which direction do you think the modern generation are taking?

http://www.11points.com/News-Politics/11_Companies_That_Surp...

IBM's reaction? An internal memo saying that, due to that "situation", they really needed to step up production on high-speed alphabetizing equipment. (Source: CNet)

It doesn't strike me as very plausible that NYT would be reporting on the extermination of Jews in 1939. If they were, I am eager to learn about it. If anyone knows more about this, please link me to it.

To my knowledge, mass exterminations didn't begin until 1941, carried out by gas trucks and firing squads. The Final Solution was formulated in 1942, with the first death camps going into operation that year. In 1939 the Nazis had already started exterminating some "undesirables" (including at least the disabled and mentally ill) and they were already operating concentration camps, but the nominal goal of these camps was the eventual deportation of Jews rather than extermination. I would be surprised to learn that any Allied governments (or those who would become Allies) knew about the extermination of Jews in 1939, let alone the press.

(I haven't actually been able to read the referenced article in full, mind you, because I am cheap; thus, I am not personally vouching for the article saying what it is claimed to. I'm just providing to others the ability to do so if any of you have interest and/or disposability of income greater than mine at the moment.)

Take a look at the report from Dachau in the New Republic (1934) [1], the report by Gerhard Seger from Oranienburg (1934) [2] and contrast those with Hitler's word in his speech from January 1939 [3] or in Mein Kampf from 1925 [4]. There were reports by other people I'm unable to find right now. If you combine the information with an open mind a picture emerges, one that could have possibly found its way into the NYT in 1939.

[1] https://newrepublic.com/article/119850/1934-report-dachau-co... [2] http://library.fes.de/library/netzquelle/rechtsextremismus/p... [3] http://www.yadvashem.org/about_holocaust/documents/part1/doc... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf#Antisemitism

The Dachau concentration camp you mentioned has a gas chamber but it wasn't used if I remember it correctly (was there on a school trip).

The T4 killings are seen as the precursor to the mass extermination of Jews, with refinements of killing methods.

Six different camps were used. People were killed in gas chambers, or by lethal injection, or by starvation.

Hitler authorised this in 1939.

[1] http://www.lipica.org/en/

You guys act like you wouldn't jump at the chance to have your pet project subsidized by ANYBODY, literally any government or organization with any ideology if it meant the chance for you to pursue your dream

Aren't most of you guys here interested in VCs, for example.

Interesting story though, any more details about the guys that successfully scammed Nazi taxpayers?

So when I say "literally all", I'm exaggerating -- but only slightly. Not every dollar in the fucktons of VC money sloshing around out there can be traced back to defense funding, but an awful lot of them can.

Where would ARPANET be without the discovery of electricity or the massive railroad expansion throughout the US that resulted in a large telegraph network? It's pretty stupid to tie the valley to one particular invention supported by the government when it depends on essentially all of history until this point.