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Re:Doctorow: Why I won't buy an iPad by ThomPete on Friday April 02, 2010 @03:39PM (#1237335)
Why should your family care?

Another word for closed platform is no virus, no installation, no manual.

That seems to be pretty down someone like my dads alley who love the internet but always have issues with his laptop.

Re:Doctorow: Why I won't buy an iPad by stanleydrew on Friday April 02, 2010 @06:57PM (#1237783)
Why should your family care?

Because I don't want them to get taken advantage of. I want them to make informed decisions. And I care about them generally. This is a pretty strange question. If someone in your family worked manufacturing cars and knew a lot about which ones were good and bad and for which reasons, and could just generally help you make a better informed decision about what car to buy, wouldn't you want to talk to that family member about that knowledge?

Re:Doctorow: Why I won't buy an iPad by aswanson on Friday April 02, 2010 @05:33PM (#1237633)
Another word for closed platform is no virus? So closed windows is more virus proof than open Linux?
Re:Doctorow: Why I won't buy an iPad by ThomPete on Monday April 05, 2010 @04:58AM (#1241551)
the iPad is nothing like windows or Linux for that matter. How would you get virus into the iPad when everything has to be approved.

It's a very different animal.

Re:Doctorow: Why I won't buy an iPad by jawngee on Friday April 02, 2010 @06:12PM (#1237713)
If Linux had the market share that Windows did, you can bet your last dollar Linux would be as bad off in terms of spyware, virii, etc.
Re:Doctorow: Why I won't buy an iPad by cryptoz on Friday April 02, 2010 @07:04PM (#1237797)
This is absolutely not true. Such a statement is ridiculous, and ignores the historical development of Linux and Windows. Windows was built as a single-user, administrator-by-default system that will run any EXE file without question. Linux was built modelled on UNIX standards: run as unprivileged user, multi-user environments, etc.

Sure, MS is better about Windows Security now. And guess what? That's why there aren't nearly as many virus problems as there used to be (think 7's early days vs XP's early days).

Linux has a strong security model. It already has ~50% market share on servers (maybe more)! Don't ever suggest that my last dollar would be spent poorly if I bet on Linux's security.

Also, the plural of "virus" is "viruses", not "virii".

Re:Doctorow: Why I won't buy an iPad by ThomPete on Monday April 05, 2010 @05:02AM (#1241553)
This seems to be emotion talking not logic.

You are confusing whether the system with the users.

The reason why virus is a menace on the windows platform is because of all the non experts using it.

If you had the same kind of types as my partents there would be absolutely no challenge plastering the os with viruses.

Re:Doctorow: Why I won't buy an iPad by Daishiman on Friday April 02, 2010 @07:38PM (#1237836)
Bullshit. Historically Apache has always had a greater market share than IIS yet far more virueses target IIS. Historically most servers have run UNIX OSes yet most of the malware that targets servers goes for Windows. Some architectures are objectively more secure. Being closed, in fact, closely correlates with being insecure.
Re:Doctorow: Why I won't buy an iPad by xcombinator on Saturday April 03, 2010 @04:34AM (#1238410)
If you bet on it, you will lose.

That is the MS PR statement, witch is completely BS. Open source have a lot more people looking at the code and using a proven Unix security model.