Re:New class of galaxy has been discovered, made almost enti...
by nerfhammer on Friday August 26, 2016 @03:05PM
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How can it have mass / interact gravitationally and not make "clumps"?
Re:New class of galaxy has been discovered, made almost enti...
by Florin_Andrei on Friday August 26, 2016 @04:19PM
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Gravity only pulls things together, it doesn't stop them when they get close to each other. In the absence of "friction" (all other interactions except gravity), things get close to each other and just zoom past by / through each other.
If you only have gravity but nothing else, there are no collisions.
If you've seen the CUDA demo where they simulate thousands of bodies interacting by gravity, and they just keep swarming around forever - it's like that. No friction or stickiness, no collisions, just forever swarming around.
Dark matter, whatever it really is, is rather like a "ghost". Just goes through normal matter and through itself and doesn't do anything except a little gravitational tug.
Re:New class of galaxy has been discovered, made almost enti...
by okket on Friday August 26, 2016 @03:23PM
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See http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/214950/if-dark-ma...
TL;DR: Dark Matter doesn't clump because of missing "friction" from the other forces, esp. electromagnetic/weak.
Re:New class of galaxy has been discovered, made almost enti...
by auvrw on Friday August 26, 2016 @02:26PM
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upvoted, and not disagreeing (b/c i know nothing a/b this) -- would like a similarly semisimple explain on how "interaction" thru gravity alone makes any sense at all in the relativity framework: light no longer travels along lines of zero acceleration?
Edit: on second thought, a book reference is probably better
Re:New class of galaxy has been discovered, made almost enti...
by mikeash on Friday August 26, 2016 @02:33PM
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In relativity, gravity isn't a force that causes acceleration, it's a change in the shape of space which changes the path objects take. Thus, gravity affects the path light takes, but that's still a "straight line," because what gravity is really affecting is what a straight line is.
Re:New class of galaxy has been discovered, made almost enti...
by effingwewt on Friday August 26, 2016 @07:17PM
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This is my favorite explanation of this, mind if I forward this to an old Astronomy Professor? I think he'd love this too.
That's it. The name "dark matter" is a bit optimistic, because we don't even know if it's anything like "matter".
It's not a fluke in the equations, it's not a fifth fundamental force. All these alternatives have been shown to be very unlikely.
It's not "normal" matter because that one would interact in ways other than gravity, too, and it would tend to make "clumps" (stars, planets). This one doesn't make clumps.
So, yes, it's pretty certain that it exists, but nobody knows what it is. Its only attribute observed so far is its mass. Maybe we should call it "dark mass" instead.