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Re:How Parents Harnessed the Power of Social Media to Challe... by rayiner on Thursday August 25, 2016 @10:28PM (#12363947)
The EpiPen thing is a really great example of two facts:

(1) It's better to be in a business where you don't (literally) save lives, because nobody complains about how much money the Pokemon game makes.

(2) People won't actually take a lot of risk to market and develop life-saving products without a financial incentive.

Epinephrine is not patented. The only thing stopping a competitor from entering the market is coming up with a delivery mechanism for the drug that's as reliable as Mylan's. Apparently that has proven difficult. Sanofi used to make a competing device, until it was forced to do a mass recall because the device couldn't deliver an accurate dosage.

The difficulty of getting it right is compounded by the fact that a device that delivers epinephrine to children in anaphylactic shock is just about the highest-risk product you can make from a potential liability point of view. There is no market for a "slightly less good but much cheaper" product.

Re:How Parents Harnessed the Power of Social Media to Challe... by refurb on Thursday August 25, 2016 @10:47PM (#12363991)
The other interesting thing to note is that people don't care so much about what the price is right now, they care whether or not it's gone up. If Mylan had launched the Epipen at $600 for a 2-pack, I'm not sure this would have gotten much attention. The fact the price went up 6x or more is what pisses people off.

This is one of the challenges with drug pricing. If you're pricing your drug to the benefit it offers (which is what is generally done), you better do it at launch or you're screwed.

This has actually happened with other drugs in the past. The drug company runs a clinical trial in one disease, gets good data and sets a price. The drug then gets approved in another indication where the value is much higher, so they try and raise the price to reflect the added value. Usually it results in outrage.

Re:How Parents Harnessed the Power of Social Media to Challe... by FireBeyond on Thursday August 25, 2016 @11:29PM (#12364091)
"The other interesting thing to note is that people don't care so much about what the price is right now, they care whether or not it's gone up. If Mylan had launched the Epipen at $600 for a 2-pack, I'm not sure this would have gotten much attention. The fact the price went up 6x or more is what pisses people off."

And that -after significant and hefty lobbying of legislatures to mandate that schools, EMS units (capable of managing, maintaining and drawing up epi themselves) and the like be required to carry them-.

Re:How Parents Harnessed the Power of Social Media to Challe... by maxerickson on Friday August 26, 2016 @03:15PM (#12368600)
There's 100,000 schools in the US.

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84

So it's around 3-5% of their market ($600 per school is 2.5% of their $2.4 billion annual revenue on the pens). I guess that is a pretty substantial chunk.

Re:How Parents Harnessed the Power of Social Media to Challe... by croon on Friday August 26, 2016 @04:20AM (#12364946)
You're framing it under a free market system. This is a monopoly where the "benefit it offers" is a persons life. In this scenario you could charge a $1M and any parent that can afford it would think the benefit outweighs the price.

The cost to market for the EpiPen was recouped long before Mylan even bought the company. This is just gouging. Believe me when I say that someone else will pop up as soon as possible (FDA approval takes a long time) with a product that costs a 5th as much, as long as Mylan doesn't manage to rig the system.

Re:How Parents Harnessed the Power of Social Media to Challe... by refurb on Friday August 26, 2016 @08:28AM (#12365694)
The US pharmaceutical marketplace operates under a "free pricing" system. Companies are free to set their price to whatever they feel like. The only thing that limits the price is the response of the market.

I agree that it's a not a price vs. demand equation since demand won't drop off for a product like this since there aren't really any substitutes (other than the vial and syringe which has limitations). However, public response to a price is a very strong motivator for drug companies. I can guarantee you that Mylan's C-suite is in a frenzy right now trying to figure out how to fix this.

Re:How Parents Harnessed the Power of Social Media to Challe... by karmelapple on Friday August 26, 2016 @12:59AM (#12364312)
Here's a company getting it right but stuck waiting for approval: http://www.meddeviceonline.com/doc/compact-epipen-alternativ...

Of course, we want strong requirements on life saving devices. Just a bummer it takes such an awfully long time.

Anyone know the longest pole schedule item in getting a new drug/treatment to market?

Re:How Parents Harnessed the Power of Social Media to Challe... by rayiner on Friday August 26, 2016 @08:09AM (#12365617)
That article says they didn't even submit an application until this summer.
Re:How Parents Harnessed the Power of Social Media to Challe... by revelation on Friday August 26, 2016 @05:18AM (#12365129)
There are other companies in other countries selling other pens that are working perfectly fine. I think you'll figure out what (2) actually is if you consider they are not selling in the US.
Re:How Parents Harnessed the Power of Social Media to Challe... by maxerickson on Friday August 26, 2016 @03:16PM (#12368613)
There's multiple companies in the US selling cheaper epinephrine auto-injectors.