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Re:How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple by atonse on Wednesday August 24, 2016 @05:10PM (#12355289)
I'm not so sure you actually read the article.

It explicitly talks about how they've accomplished a lot of this without violating their users' privacy. And that the fact that they deny AI researchers big hoards of data, hurts their reputation in the AI community, because most AI researchers want mountains of data.

Re:How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple by sangnoir on Wednesday August 24, 2016 @05:36PM (#12355430)
> It explicitly talks about how they've accomplished a lot of this without violating their users' privacy.

My question are: A. who is violating user's privacy, B. How is Apple any different[1] from them, besides proclaiming they aren't violating privacy?

1. Some data is collected from the device and sent to a server for processing. Until Apple does something truly radical (like 100% encrypted information that is processing on-device), they are just like every other company that opens up user's data to 'ex-filtration' by third parties.

Re:How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple by throwanem on Wednesday August 24, 2016 @05:46PM (#12355505)
Well, to your point B: for a start, I've already paid Apple. They have much less financial incentive to use my data in ways inimical to me than, say, an advertising company would.
Re:How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple by johncolanduoni on Wednesday August 24, 2016 @09:47PM (#12356467)
They're certainly not the only ones in this space, but they've been talking about differential privacy recently[1]. So there are possibilities between "everything is on our server" and "everything is on your device".

[1]: http://www.recode.net/2016/6/24/11967188/apple-data-collecti...

Re:How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple by dummyacc111 on Thursday August 25, 2016 @02:03AM (#12357191)
> Until Apple does something truly radical (like 100% encrypted information that is processing on-device)

This is exactly what Apple does, which should answer question B.

Re:How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple by sangnoir on Thursday August 25, 2016 @02:44AM (#12357291)
> This is exactly what Apple does

That is not true, even the puff-piece article admits as much if you read it carefully. This can be proven trivially: is Siri processed locally?

Re:How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple by throwanem on Thursday August 25, 2016 @06:37AM (#12358014)
Answering only the trivially erroneous objection, and ignoring two other better-founded ones, does not reflect confidence in your stance.
Re:How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple by sangnoir on Thursday August 25, 2016 @08:57AM (#12358621)
In the footnote to the point gp was replying, I had said

> Until Apple does something truly radical (like 100% encrypted information that is processing on-device)

You can call it trivial, I will argue otherwise. No one knows outside of Apple how big a percentage cloud-based processing is, but my point remains - Apple's does what everyone else is doing, the only difference is proportion.