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Re:Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam by jamiesonbecker on Monday August 22, 2016 @03:14PM (#12338649)
> You're not allowed to send unsolicited emails.

Actually, you ARE allowed to send unsolicited email, even commercial (UCE). It has to be clearly labeled, contain the postal address of the sender, and contain unsubscribe links. Also, CAN-SPAM only applies to senders in the U.S. (unfortunately).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAN-SPAM_Act_of_2003#Applicabi...

Re:Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam by rbritton on Monday August 22, 2016 @03:59PM (#12338975)
It's pretty amazing the number of senders that do not obey the requirement for a minimal unsubscribe flow:

> Any opt-out mechanism you offer must be able to process opt-out requests for at least 30 days after you send your message. You must honor a recipient’s opt-out request within 10 business days. You can’t charge a fee, require the recipient to give you any personally identifying information beyond an email address, or make the recipient take any step other than sending a reply email or visiting a single page on an Internet website as a condition for honoring an opt-out request. Once people have told you they don’t want to receive more messages from you, you can’t sell or transfer their email addresses, even in the form of a mailing list.

To me it seems more of an honor-based system rather than one there's any enforcement for. Much like the Do Not Call list.

Re:Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam by ianlevesque on Monday August 22, 2016 @04:20PM (#12339123)
There have been a handful of prosecutions, but not nearly enough.
Re:Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam by mike-cardwell on Tuesday August 23, 2016 @03:10AM (#12341923)
"unfortunately" ? Thank God we don't have the CAN-SPAM act in the UK. I'd be receiving unsolicited spam from all sorts of UK businesses if we did.

I don't care if a spam email has an unsubscribe link or the sender is clearly labelled. Once it's received and seen, the damage is done.

Re:Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam by derefr on Monday August 22, 2016 @03:52PM (#12338926)
> CAN-SPAM only applies to senders in the U.S.

Given that SMTP is a relay system, would the first US-soil SMTP gateway machine a message travels through be its legal "sender" (in the way that e.g. the importer of a foreign medical device is liable if it's not FDA-approved)? One would think this would legally force those gateways, when handling foreign-originated spam, to slap their own address on them with their own unsubscribe link, that would—if clicked—then block those messages from coming through that gateway.

Re:Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam by jameshart on Monday August 22, 2016 @04:17PM (#12339108)
Mail is not actually sent over a series of SMTP relays, though. It's basically routed directly to the MX SMTP server for the domain.
Re:Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam by majewsky on Tuesday August 23, 2016 @03:48AM (#12342047)
Except in some corporate intranet setups, but that's not really relevant for this discussion.
Re:Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam by wtbob on Tuesday August 23, 2016 @09:11AM (#12343406)
> Also, CAN-SPAM only applies to senders in the U.S. (unfortunately).

We could always send gunboats to reduce cities whose citizens send unsolicited emails to the U.S. … /s

More seriously, this does seem like the sort of thing which could be addressed through bilateral or multilateral negotiations, including between the private firms who own the international Internet connexions.

Re:Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam by sp332 on Monday August 22, 2016 @03:50PM (#12338907)
I don't know if I would call it a "relationship" message, but maybe it's a "transactional" message, where serving the webpage counts as the transaction?
Re:Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam by the_watcher on Monday August 22, 2016 @08:19PM (#12340384)
When I worked somewhere that did a decent amount of email marketing, we were told our abandoned cart emails were not transactional, as there were not actually a part of any kind of transaction (yet). Not sure on the actual status though.