Evidence points to another leaker at the NSA

Re:Evidence points to another leaker at the NSA by dredmorbius on Monday August 22, 2016 @12:11PM (#12337298)

It's inevitable that there are, or were, or will be, other Edward Snowdens working at NSA. Persons who find that the Agency's mission no longer sits well with them.

The question is: who are they working for?

Snowden was working for the American People, and upholding the US Constitution.

To draw from some relevant if non-US history, Kim Philby's interests did not lie with his nation's subjects, despite his aristocratic pedigree.

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Re:Evidence points to another leaker at the NSA by dv_dt on Monday August 22, 2016 @12:20PM (#12337374)

Yup, I always thought that the bigger risk was that there were other much less ethical or patriotic versions of Snowden in the NSA who could/would leak data and not go public at all. Putting up the machinery to spy on foreign nations is a sort of 'attractive nusiance', pointing that same machinery to spy on US citizens too magnifies the attractiveness tremendously.

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Re:Evidence points to another leaker at the NSA by vocatus_gate on Monday August 22, 2016 @02:02PM (#12338131)

I worked for the NSA for four years and left last year because being there bothered my conscience. Lots of smart and nice people, but I just didn't want my life's work contributing to their mission. I left a secure position with great benefits and went off to be a 1099 at one of the credit card companies. Less job security but I no longer have the burden of knowing my work is supporting something I'm strongly against.

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Re:Evidence points to another leaker at the NSA by philovivero on Monday August 22, 2016 @08:38PM (#12340473)

Thank you for your principled approach to life. I wish we had more of you on our side!

(What is "our side?" I, similarly, have refused to work for defense industry, TLA agencies, etc, because I see them as net negatives to our society - this is the side I'm on)

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Re:Evidence points to another leaker at the NSA by dredmorbius on Monday August 22, 2016 @09:47PM (#12340789)

Friend I knew, USAF reserve, served in Bosnia, worked at one of the major CC companies in the 1990s.

He related the story of talking to a friend in national intelligence. The FoaF: "You've got more data on people than we do."

"China's Internet" (Bloomberg video) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VAesMQ6VtK8

The War on Cash: http://thelongandshort.org/society/war-on-cash

(Also discussed at HN.)

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Re:Evidence points to another leaker at the NSA by AnimalMuppet on Monday August 22, 2016 @01:38PM (#12337955)

Historically, "interests lie with his nation's subjects" does not correlate with "aristocratic pedigree".

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Re:Evidence points to another leaker at the NSA by dredmorbius on Monday August 22, 2016 @09:48PM (#12340797)

Well, not perfectly. There's Roger Mortimer and his lady friend, for example.

But the strong assumption of the time was that it did.

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Re:Evidence points to another leaker at the NSA by nxzero on Monday August 22, 2016 @12:17PM (#12337353)

>> "Snowden was working for the American People"

Who Snowden is/was working for really is likely not of much importance. What matters is what impact he had, which at least to me, is not that clear.

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Re:Evidence points to another leaker at the NSA by swalsh on Monday August 22, 2016 @12:44PM (#12337557)

He's had a very clear impact. Before Snowdon thinking that the NSA was collecting data on EVERYONE was a conspiracy theory. It was "crazy". Post-Snowdon it's a proven reality. Snowdon showed how far a clandestine agency with very little oversight can go. The answer, it controls EVERYTHING, it's been proven that not only have they spied on high up allied politicians (bad, but maybe excusable) they also spied on OUR OWN.

Snowdon showed us there's this agency, with a virtually unlimited budget that can control the politicians that control the world... and they are beholden to no one, the law is a rubber stamp.

Worse, even when it was demonstrated that they outstepped the boundaries of our laws... things have remained unchanged.

Snowdon showed us the truth, then left it up to us to do something about it. Unfortunately, no group of people has so far mustered up any change. That's our own failing.

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Re:Evidence points to another leaker at the NSA by user731955373 on Monday August 22, 2016 @02:02PM (#12338135)

http://www.whoishostingthis.com/blog/2015/05/20/snowdens-glo...

"US cloud computing firms could lose between $22 billion and $35 billion in overseas business over three years. [Following Snowden leaks.]" http://www.securityweek.com/snowden-revelations-costly-us-te...

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