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Re:Technology was meant to herald a new way of working, but ... by badwolf on Thursday August 18, 2016 @09:15AM (#12312212)
Going to have to +1 this. I worked remotely/from home for 6 years, and was extremely productive, and also much less stressed. If I needed to take an hour or two and go to my apartment's pool, then I'd do it...

Now I'm back in an office doing 9-5, and everything is a chore. My stress levels are significantly higher than previously, etc...

With tools like group video calling, conference calls, email, Slack/chat, etc... It's incredibly easy to stay "close" with your team while being remote.

Re:Technology was meant to herald a new way of working, but ... by kefka on Thursday August 18, 2016 @10:24AM (#12312679)
The tools to work remotely can be nice as you put it...

But if you can work remotely from home/desk, so can people who are willing to work for 10% of your salary. In person means "Im on the radar, im there to consider, and there to help". Someone over a chat client doesnt have the same presence.

Now, this might/probably change with the advent of AR and VR workspaces.

Re:Technology was meant to herald a new way of working, but ... by Touche on Thursday August 18, 2016 @11:10AM (#12313066)
> But if you can work remotely from home/desk, so can people who are willing to work for 10% of your salary.

That's just capitalism. Choose a profession where you're not so easily replaced by someone who will take 10% of your salary.

Re:Technology was meant to herald a new way of working, but ... by obstacle1 on Thursday August 18, 2016 @01:42PM (#12314681)
>if you can work remotely from home/desk, so can people who are willing to work for 10% of your salary

If you're so unskilled as to be that replaceable, there's no reason to feel comfortable in a non-remote job, either.

Re:Technology was meant to herald a new way of working, but ... by ChoHag on Friday August 19, 2016 @07:03AM (#12319194)
If an employer chooses someone at 10% of your salary, your employer is chooosing someone too stupid to demand 90% of your salary. Do you really want to work for the idiot who's OK with that?
Re:Technology was meant to herald a new way of working, but ... by OpenDrapery on Thursday August 18, 2016 @11:09AM (#12313056)
Productive according to what measurement? The problem is that the tech industry is still failing to measure productivity, even when people are onsite. So the lazy fall back is "butts in seats". If I can see you sitting in you're chair, I think you're productive. If I can't, then you are not. So, while you say you were productive while working remotely, there was some manager who thought you were doing nothing at all.
Re:Technology was meant to herald a new way of working, but ... by bpyne on Thursday August 18, 2016 @01:32PM (#12314588)
What's an objective measurement for jobs as diverse as software engineer, system administrator, computer technician, and first-tier support? The Tech Industry is made up of these roles and many more.

Just take a software engineer for example. LOC is fallible in too many ways to take seriously. Number of function points coded? Number of bugs fixed? They are all very fallible.

How about mentoring? How about reviewing code? How about documentation? How about professional development?

Depending on the situation, reading a technical article can weigh higher than a support issue. How do you develop the weighting for the different factors? Can it be applied across organizations?

To confound it further, people tend to take on work that doesn't fit their title. The smaller the organization, the larger the diversity of responsibilities.

Then there are soft factors like knowing which issues to address immediately in order to keep them from percolating up to your manager, working well within a team, communicating effectively, etc.

My opinion is that we are unlikely to see objective, effective measurements of productivity for the Tech Industry anytime within my employment life. It's not a failure. The number of factors involved, not to mention the ability to gather the measurements, is staggeringly complex. After all, we're not factory line workers producing pre-defined widgets.

Re:Technology was meant to herald a new way of working, but ... by softawre on Thursday August 18, 2016 @10:20AM (#12312650)
Right, you are speaking from the employee side though. You seemed to have gloss over the "difficulty getting in touch with someone" and "times when you must be available" part.

Depending when you were out at the pool, I can imagine you got a few instant messages from your boss that you didn't reply to.

Re:Technology was meant to herald a new way of working, but ... by walterstucco on Thursday August 18, 2016 @10:59AM (#12312960)
that could happen in the office as well