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Re:Aetna CEO Threatened Obamacare Pullout If Feds Opposed Hu... by Broken_Hippo on Wednesday August 17, 2016 @05:08PM (#12308491)
Well, not really. I had my gall bladder out about '08. I couldn't eat properly before it got out. It wasn't emergency, but the pain put me in the emergency room more than once. I didn't have gallstones, it quit working. It has been years since I got it out. I still have a few problems eating greasy foods (especially meat), but now generally avoid those and am mostly vegetarian. No other complications, and I have not required any sort of care for that surgery outside of that. Neither has my brother, who got his out about 5 years ago. Neither has my mother, who got hers out in 1978.

This type of thing isn't so much a pre-existing condition as much as they are "I had a health issue that was more severe than a simple infection". It isn't the same as "I have diabetes" or "I have chronic issues with x", which can cause expenses.

Re:Aetna CEO Threatened Obamacare Pullout If Feds Opposed Hu... by harryh on Wednesday August 17, 2016 @05:11PM (#12308509)
See #2 here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12308243

I'm actually quite curious about this.

Re:Aetna CEO Threatened Obamacare Pullout If Feds Opposed Hu... by Frondo on Wednesday August 17, 2016 @06:03PM (#12308834)
About being rejected from buying my own health insurance, based on a surgery I'd had, I think that the question of whether it's "smart" or "dumb" for insurers to do so is irrelevant.

Especially in a modern society, that decision-making process is no more relevant than asking whether it's OK to dump toxic waste into the river, because the fines could be cheaper than processing such waste safely.

Re:Aetna CEO Threatened Obamacare Pullout If Feds Opposed Hu... by harryh on Wednesday August 17, 2016 @06:10PM (#12308872)
Private companies refusing to sell insurance to someone where they will lose money on the transaction is not at all like dumping toxic waste into a river.

If insurance companies can't make money (or at least break even) for a certain population then they are't a viable means of making sure care is payed for, and we need to develop alternate policies to make things work.

So it's actually very very relevant to understand the decision-making process of insurance companies in these situations.

Re:Aetna CEO Threatened Obamacare Pullout If Feds Opposed Hu... by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday August 17, 2016 @06:19PM (#12308921)
True, but Frondo also has a point. If insurance companies can cherry-pick individuals and refuse to sell to specific individuals where the insurance company is more likely to lose money, that's... not good. It kind of defeats the point of insurance, in fact.

If Obamacare-as-a-block is business they don't want, they shouldn't have to take it. If it's a subset of individuals, I'm less sympathetic.

Re:Aetna CEO Threatened Obamacare Pullout If Feds Opposed Hu... by harryh on Wednesday August 17, 2016 @06:25PM (#12308957)
Indeed. Obamacare-as-a-block was specifically designed to try to eliminate this cherry picking of individuals. But it's turning out that the solution might not be adequate because insurance companies are choosing to just abandon the whole block. That's what I meant with my "closely related" comment above.

And if the Obamacare exchanges don't work, that's no good either!

As I said elsewhere, the economics of health care are very challenging.

Re:Aetna CEO Threatened Obamacare Pullout If Feds Opposed Hu... by Frondo on Wednesday August 17, 2016 @07:10PM (#12309209)
This is a discussion the rest of the western world has had and solved in various ways over the last fifty years. The economics of health care isn't a new mystery the world has never before seen, for us to unravel here, it's a matter of policy where we're just lagging behind the rest of the west.

That's why I find these questions irrelevant.