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Re:How Silicon Valley's Palantir Wired Washington by gaur on Sunday August 14, 2016 @05:19PM (#12287396)
Why do people replace transparent English phrases with opaque foreign abbreviations? We're not writing with quills on vellum anymore.

Even "$500k/yr" is an improvement on "$500k p.a.".

Re:How Silicon Valley's Palantir Wired Washington by adenadel on Sunday August 14, 2016 @05:30PM (#12287440)
As far as I know, per annum is actually a part of the English language. I typically have seen it used in the context of pricing or finance which seems to be verified. [1] I don't disagree with you about p.a. less clear than /yr though.

1. http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/3933/what-is-the-...

Re:How Silicon Valley's Palantir Wired Washington by trengrj on Sunday August 14, 2016 @05:53PM (#12287519)
I'd argue "per annum" or p.a. isn't a foreign term and just standard English. English is full of Latin words, transparent, opaque, foreign, those are all words of Latin origin.
Re:How Silicon Valley's Palantir Wired Washington by gaur on Sunday August 14, 2016 @09:01PM (#12288030)
> I'd argue "per annum" or p.a. isn't a foreign term and just standard English.

Did you notice that a fluent English speaker had to ask what "p.a." meant? Do you think that would have happened if it had been written "per year" instead?

Re:How Silicon Valley's Palantir Wired Washington by adenadel on Sunday August 14, 2016 @09:39PM (#12288148)
The same could be argued for any jargon outside of one's own field.
Re:How Silicon Valley's Palantir Wired Washington by Tomte on Monday August 15, 2016 @12:20AM (#12288611)
As a counterpoint: I'm not a native English speaker, I do understand "yr" just fine, but it takes me a split second longer to read that abbreviation.

Because p.a. is also part of my language.

Re:How Silicon Valley's Palantir Wired Washington by edoceo on Sunday August 14, 2016 @11:14PM (#12288409)
How could one tell the OP was fluent?
Re:How Silicon Valley's Palantir Wired Washington by tptacek on Sunday August 14, 2016 @05:32PM (#12287448)
Complaining about p.a. in a finance context makes about as much sense as complaining about "etc".
Re:How Silicon Valley's Palantir Wired Washington by hueving on Sunday August 14, 2016 @08:59PM (#12288021)
Well it makes sense to complain about etc when we have etcd now. Embrace the future!
Re:How Silicon Valley's Palantir Wired Washington by dredmorbius on Sunday August 14, 2016 @11:32PM (#12288466)
Per annum, per centum, per mille, per capita, et cetera, et cetera.

These are Latin phrases, borrowed especially in British English as Great Britain was occupied by Latin speakers for nearly 400 years -- 43 CE through 410 CE. Latin continued to be the language of diplomacy, religion, philosophy, and science through the 18th and 19th century.

It is, for all practical intents, proper British English.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/per

Though yes, $<value>/yr. is more frequently seen especially in American English.

Re:How Silicon Valley's Palantir Wired Washington by gaur on Monday August 15, 2016 @12:14AM (#12288592)
> borrowed especially in British English as Great Britain was occupied by Latin speakers for nearly 400 years -- 43 CE through 410 CE.

Can you explain how Latin loanwords were loaned into English during this period? In your explanation, please make use of the facts that (1) there were no English speakers in Great Britain before 410 CE, and moreover (2) there was, by definition, no such language as English until Anglo-Saxon migrations into Great Britain (around 450 CE) established a distinct West Germanic linguistic community on the island.

Re:How Silicon Valley's Palantir Wired Washington by dredmorbius on Monday August 15, 2016 @01:43AM (#12288876)
You're more than welcome to explore this yourself.

You are, otherwise, being what the modern English derivative of the Sumerian ansu describes.

Re:How Silicon Valley's Palantir Wired Washington by bazqux2 on Monday August 15, 2016 @12:35AM (#12288660)
You are being worse than Palantir.