Re:Guido van Rossum: “PDF Must Die.” (2014)
by creshal on Sunday August 14, 2016 @04:54AM
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PDF1/A is a great standard for printable documents. Because it doesn't try to do anything else.
Regular PDF with embedded flash, quicktime, HTML/XML forms and/or javascript, is a nightmare.
Re:Guido van Rossum: “PDF Must Die.” (2014)
by blowski on Sunday August 14, 2016 @05:07AM
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A few years back, I had to borrow someone's computer to fill out the UK passport form. It was full of extensions that only worked in the latest version of Adobe Acrobat - which wasn't available on Ubuntu (at the time). I couldn't even print the form and fill it by hand.
Yeah, it’s bad when governments depend on proprietary formats like that. It would be better if they would use a simple web app for entering the data, and then generate a PDF server-side. (Or even better perhaps, just let the whole application process live online.)
Re:Guido van Rossum: “PDF Must Die.” (2014)
by creshal on Sunday August 14, 2016 @07:38AM
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Doing forms in PDF directly is not the most unreasonable idea.
The problem is it's not one, but three ridiculously overcomplex specification: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format#Inter...
Re:Guido van Rossum: “PDF Must Die.” (2014)
by blowski on Sunday August 14, 2016 @07:47AM
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It's fine if it's the easiest method available with universal support. In this case in failed on both counts.
Re:Guido van Rossum: “PDF Must Die.” (2014)
by Aldo_MX on Sunday August 14, 2016 @04:09AM
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Emphasis in "printing, not displaying".
The objection should not be "PDF must die", but "people mustn't use PDF for other purpose than printing".
Re:Guido van Rossum: “PDF Must Die.” (2014)
by delcaran on Sunday August 14, 2016 @04:21AM
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> What you see is what you get, wherever you open it, wherever you print it, that is huge.
Not really, it depends on the PDF software. I have printed the same bill with SumatraPDF, Acrobat Reader X and Acrobat Reader DC: different fonts, different sizes and missing logos...
Re:Guido van Rossum: “PDF Must Die.” (2014)
by Freak_NL on Sunday August 14, 2016 @04:42AM
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Usually it is the PDF that is at fault, or rather, the assumptions made by the author (or the authoring software). A PDF meant to be portable and usable for a long time should embed all fonts used. If you get different fonts and sizes in different viewers, that tends to hint at a lack of embedded fonts, leaving the PDF viewer to substitute using its fall back fonts.
Most PDFs I come across tend to come with embedded fonts and work just fine on any decent PDF-viewer.
Re:Guido van Rossum: “PDF Must Die.” (2014)
by 0xmohit on Sunday August 14, 2016 @04:38AM
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If the underlying document doesn't embed the fonts it uses, then the reader would perform substitution. This causes different outputs on different readers.
It's more of a PDF producing application problem that fail to either embed the rather uncommon or proprietary fonts.
Re:Guido van Rossum: “PDF Must Die.” (2014)
by Arcanum-XIII on Sunday August 14, 2016 @04:35AM
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That's why when you're trying to print professionally, you're gonna use the original software and not something that try to re implement it. I know it's sad, because open source, but when a (good) standard exist that is closed source, we have to made due, till something arguably better exist.
Re:Guido van Rossum: “PDF Must Die.” (2014)
by tkvtkvtkvtkv on Sunday August 14, 2016 @04:23AM
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portrait page layout on a landscape screen when what we really want is multi-column landscape layout
What you see is what you get, wherever you open it, wherever you print it, that is huge.