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Re:Microsoft proves backdoor keys are a bad idea by rocqua on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @03:50PM (#12264361)
Secure boot's intentions are to ensure a malicious modified OS cannot run (when taken at face value, there is also the potential for vendor lock-in, but noone will defend it based on that).

Remember that I-phone the FBI wanted apple to hack? With this golden key, anyone could've hacked into that I-phone.

I am not sure how e.g. bitlocker uses the TPM, but it might be that being able to load a modified OS allows for bypassing OS-implemented rate-limiting on TPM access.

Re:Microsoft proves backdoor keys are a bad idea by stable-point on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @05:28PM (#12264868)
The TPM controls the rate-limiting. A compromised OS shouldn't affect it. (Otherwise a live CD could compromise your disk encryption, as the encryption is usually done at the OS level, not in the BIOS/EFI).
Re:Microsoft proves backdoor keys are a bad idea by rocqua on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @06:00PM (#12265036)
Perhaps not rate-limiting, but on the i-phone, it was about circumventing the limit of 10 tries.

Besides, doesn't secureboot block an unsigned live-CD? Otherwise, I don't see the point of secure boot past vendor lock-in.

Re:Microsoft proves backdoor keys are a bad idea by MichaelGG on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @06:39PM (#12265211)
It is supposed to prevent boot level malware or people otherwise compromising the device. Implemented correctly, it can be beneficial to security. As an end user, I like having a TPM, and I like having boot level protection measures. I wouldn't trust my life to them, but after seeing indictments/FBI testimony, they seem like they are enough to deter many attackers.

The whole "only applies to RT devices" was a bit shifty looking from MS, though. Fortunately the broken Windows on ARM model died.

Edit: I'd also note that, e.g. console gamers love this stuff. It allows them to pretty much rely on others not being able to cheat very well.

Re:Microsoft proves backdoor keys are a bad idea by rocqua on Wednesday August 10, 2016 @07:01PM (#12265299)
So does it validate the bios/uefi firmware? Which then in turn can be setup to validate the OS (or not to validate it?)