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Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by YuriNiyazov on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @03:14AM (#12253070)
This is really wrong.

You can very well assume that it's worthless. If you do, chances are you will not do your research on things like early exercise and 83(b) filing (whether, for example, you work at a company that even allows things like that).

Then, in the very small chance that your equity is actually worth something, you will be kicking yourself really hard because if you'd only prepared, you could've been paying LTCG on the whole spread, rather than dealing with AMT and trying to find a private buyer for your illiquid stock to pay off the IRS and the CA FTB.

Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by etatoby on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @07:30AM (#12253810)
> you will be kicking yourself really hard because if you'd only prepared, you could've been paying LTCG... AMT... illiquid stock... IRS... CA FTB... ACME... Road Runner...

Look, I won't be kicking myself neither hard not soft, because I made a conscious decision to study and become proficient in another field.

You finance people work under the assumption that everybody cares—or should care—about the underlying concepts of your field, not to mention the details such as jargon and acronyms, just because we have to use money to conduct our daily life. That's demonstrably false.

It would be like assuming everybody who uses a smartphone should care and become proficient on TCP, signals, sockets, PIDs, scheduler priorities, and what not. In a word, foolish.

Considering the stock options you're given basically worthless, unless fortuitously proven otherwise, and making your employment decisions based on salary alone (and other non-monetary factors) is a valid strategy, because it allows you to avoid having to invest time into studying and understanding all those foreign concepts. Since time is a finite resource, choosing how to spend it while still having your butt covered is great advice.

On the other hand, if you are a founder of have otherwise invested a considerable amount of time and energy into those shares, it would be foolish not to seek professional advice on their management, as the article rightly points out.

Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by gaius on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @09:32AM (#12254335)
You finance people work under the assumption that everybody cares—or should care—about the underlying concepts of your field

Those aren't finance terms, they are taxpayer terms! Long term capital gains, alternative minimum tax, everyone knows who the IRS are...

Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by hifumi on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @10:09AM (#12254565)
But those acronyms are vague and I had no idea what they were until you spelled them out.
Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by 1812Overture on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @04:03PM (#12257343)
That's the point of the article.
Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by kspaans on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @10:08AM (#12254557)
Understanding how much you owe the IRS in taxes is personal finance, which isn't the same thing as business finance.
Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by YuriNiyazov on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @01:44PM (#12256351)
This is tax jargon. Death and taxes, everyone should care about those two.
Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by marssaxman on Thursday August 11, 2016 @07:06PM (#12272327)
I care about taxes, sure; that's why I delegate the problem to a competent professional.
Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by vacri on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @03:22AM (#12253100)
That all sounds like a fancy way of saying "playing the lottery".
Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by aub3bhat on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @03:34AM (#12253140)
Thats like saying programming is fancy way of saying "banging fingers on keyboard".
Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by vacri on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @07:36AM (#12253837)
Let me paraphrase the parent:

"fiscal gibberish, fiscal gibberish, Then, in the very small chance that your equity is actually worth something [sic], fiscal gibberish, fiscal gibberish"

Sounds almost like the definition of a lottery to me.

Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by signa11 on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @04:27AM (#12253283)
> Thats like saying programming is fancy way of saying "banging fingers on keyboard".

perhaps you were referring to the 'infinite monkey theorem' ? i would rather believe programming to be nothing like that.

Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by collyw on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @05:17AM (#12253406)
test driven development seems to encourage that. Bang away until it turns green.
Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by hardlianotion on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @07:07AM (#12253737)
You should try precisely that - much harder to do than it seems.
Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by mcherm on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @05:54AM (#12253520)
No, it really isn't. I agree roughly with the claim that you should plan your life based on the assumption that your stock options are quite likely to be worthless, but the comment you replied to is making specific and highly meaningful points that anyone receiving options really needs to understand.
Re:I Don’t Care How Well You Code, Understand Your Compensation by bbcbasic on Tuesday August 09, 2016 @06:27AM (#12253634)
The odds aren't THAT short.