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Re:American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots by merpnderp on Sunday August 07, 2016 @05:59PM (#12243909)
Shockingly enough, a UBI has been a libertarian concept for nearly half a century. If UBI had some reasonable limitations, like say 10% of the GDP divided evenly amoungst those who apply, it would provide a hard bottom to poverty while leaving huge incentives to find gainful employment.

I'm not saying it wouldn't quickly turn into 51% of the people voting themselves 100% of the money (which would quickly become worth nothing), but it isn't the worst idea out there.

Re:American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots by Pinckney on Sunday August 07, 2016 @06:26PM (#12244068)
>Shockingly enough, a UBI has been a libertarian concept for nearly half a century.

Can you recommend any reading on this?

Re:American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots by merpnderp on Sunday August 07, 2016 @07:33PM (#12244379)
Professor Zwolinksy of the University of Sand Diego had a good paper on it a few years ago. Covers the history and differing ideas and their drawbacks.

Neat to think about, but would take a miracle for most people to take seriously.

http://www.cato-unbound.org/2014/08/04/matt-zwolinski/pragma...

Re:American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots by Pinckney on Sunday August 07, 2016 @08:09PM (#12244526)
Thanks.
Re:American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots by morgante on Sunday August 07, 2016 @07:10PM (#12244262)
Milton Friedman famously advocated a negative income tax. [0]

[0] http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/08/why-aren...

Re:American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots by brianwawok on Sunday August 07, 2016 @07:43PM (#12244418)
We have a negative income tax through EIC. It's too small to matter though.
Re:American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots by merpnderp on Monday August 08, 2016 @10:08AM (#12247853)
It's not too small to matter. For the worst case scenario of a mother of 3+ who's working several part time jobs, it pays on average around $7K. In most of the country that is rent for a year. And since someone getting an EIC is likely in government housing as they'll qualify for it, it could then be groceries for a year. Only as they qualify for EIC, they are likely on SNAP, and this money is somewhat freed up for things besides food and housing.

So for many it is too small to matter either because they don't have dependents, don't work enough, or work too much. But it's actually a near damned perfect incentive to keep people working and trying to find better jobs while keeping them out of abject poverty. Likely the best anti-poverty tool the US government has blindly stumbled upon ever.

Re:American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots by tuna-piano on Sunday August 07, 2016 @09:45PM (#12244960)
Also worth noting, Milton Friedman advocated that in lieu of other poverty programs, because it gets rid of bureaucracy, leaves an incentive to work, and is less parent-like than existing methods.

The EIC is on top of the programs Friedman wanted to replace.