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Re:Why We Moved from Amazon Web Services to Google Cloud Pla... by fauigerzigerk on Friday August 05, 2016 @04:21PM (#12235483)
DigitalOcean and Vultr destroy not just AWS on network traffic costs, they destroy all three of them by an absurd margin. I have no explanation for that huge gap. It's the great mystery of cloud computing.
Re:Why We Moved from Amazon Web Services to Google Cloud Pla... by count on Saturday August 06, 2016 @12:09AM (#12236984)
The huge gap is easy: there is significant security in place at the big 3 that DO and other vendors simply do not have.

Google's security team is probably as big as DO's engineering team.

Re:Why We Moved from Amazon Web Services to Google Cloud Pla... by boulos on Saturday August 06, 2016 @01:52AM (#12237224)
That's not why <cloud provider> networking is so much more expensive than a VPS provider... All of the big providers have fairly serious networking investments (and I think it's fair and honest to say that Google's is the largest) that provide a network quality and performance you won't match with any VPS provider. Do you want to stream more than 100 Gbps during the Olympics to people all over the world? Don't try that on OVH, DO, etc. but you can do it on us. We (Google) in fact charge more than AWS for our networking because of our massive global network.

tl;dr: you get what you pay for, and you don't always need our crazy network!

Re:Why We Moved from Amazon Web Services to Google Cloud Pla... by fauigerzigerk on Saturday August 06, 2016 @04:32AM (#12237518)
I understand that in principle, but before paying the big cloud providers between 10 and 20 times what I would be paying Vultr/DO (for network traffic), I would like to know a great deal more about the actual performance difference.

I know it's probably on me to find that out myself.

Re:Why We Moved from Amazon Web Services to Google Cloud Pla... by count on Saturday August 06, 2016 @06:06PM (#12240113)
There's an entire industry of companies and analysts willing to sell you that information :)
Re:Why We Moved from Amazon Web Services to Google Cloud Pla... by api on Saturday August 06, 2016 @12:03PM (#12238557)
Interesting... so with Google and Amazon and the like I am paying more for the existence of capacity that I could hypothetically utilize?

DO and Vultr are colocated at very large sites. For many locations they sit right next to carrier hotels. I am a bit skeptical of whether the real world difference is that huge, especially if I sprawl my endpoints across both these providers and many locations.

Re:Why We Moved from Amazon Web Services to Google Cloud Pla... by scrollaway on Friday August 05, 2016 @04:26PM (#12235514)
I've never heard of Vultr until today. Have you used it? Can you tell more about it?
Re:Why We Moved from Amazon Web Services to Google Cloud Pla... by LusoTycoon on Friday August 05, 2016 @04:49PM (#12235658)
Samething as DigitalOcean without the hype.

5$ SSD VPS, 768M of Ram instead of 512 at DO, the reason I moved in at first.

The popularity clearly helps DO keeping up with more 1 click apps and other features than Vultr, but they recently made available reserved IPs and Object Storage, so they continue to be a good alternative to DO.

Re:Why We Moved from Amazon Web Services to Google Cloud Pla... by fauigerzigerk on Friday August 05, 2016 @04:34PM (#12235570)
I am using Vultr, but the particular project I'm using it for doesn't put a whole lot of strain on their infrastructure yet.

So far it's been working well and support was very responsive on the one occasion when I needed their help.

Re:Why We Moved from Amazon Web Services to Google Cloud Pla... by jfindley on Friday August 05, 2016 @05:10PM (#12235776)
As others have said, similar to DO. It has a few more options available, though, including better support for booting your own OSes if you don't want to use a prepackaged one, and dedicated instances (last I checked DO didn't do either, but haven't looked for a bit, might be out of date). I've also found their support to be more willing to work with me to get things running how I want, but that's obviously just anecdotal.
Re:Why We Moved from Amazon Web Services to Google Cloud Pla... by prirun on Sunday August 07, 2016 @04:30PM (#12243517)
The thing I really like about Vultr is that to use their site, you just have to enable Vultr.com (in NoScript). For DO, you have to enable 15-20 domains because they use all kinds of outsourced services, and every time you go to a new page, there are new things that have to be enabled. I got tired of it.
Re:Why We Moved from Amazon Web Services to Google Cloud Pla... by jacques_chester on Saturday August 06, 2016 @09:41AM (#12238083)
The gap is that you are expected to serve most of your traffic through their blob stores and CDNs, not through the compute instances.

The traffic prices for each of these are very different.

Re:Why We Moved from Amazon Web Services to Google Cloud Pla... by api on Saturday August 06, 2016 @06:16PM (#12240141)
In that case I can just use S3 for blobs and use Digital Ocean and Vultr and Linode for compute. Amazon charges $0 for bandwidth ingress so uploading to S3 costs me nothing.

We use VPS providers for compute and S3 for backup and large blob storage. The only other Amazon product we use is Route 53, which is a decent DNS-as-a-service and is very reliable.

Re:Why We Moved from Amazon Web Services to Google Cloud Pla... by jacques_chester on Sunday August 07, 2016 @09:02AM (#12241964)
Of course. The trick is to decide what mix of lower price and lower complexity is your sweet spot.
Re:Why We Moved from Amazon Web Services to Google Cloud Pla... by StreamBright on Friday August 05, 2016 @05:09PM (#12235772)
Very much depends what you are actually doing in the cloud.