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Re:Some news from LWN by wtbob on Thursday August 04, 2016 @07:15AM (#12224747)
> I must say that this website comes across as very unprofessional due to the total lack of any design elements which would make it more easy to consume the content (spacing, choice of font).

Say what? On the contrary, I think that it's splendidly simple to read LWN, because there's no distraction. It's a good, clean site; it respects the styling I instruct my browser to apply to it; it displays just fine in links, lynx, elinks, ewww, emacs-w3m, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Internet Explorer, Edge — if that's not professional, then what is?

The HTML is very clean and readable. They do use CSS.

Granted, it doesn't look trendy. Indeed, it looks like something from the 90s/00s. But once one updates to a20`6 style, one then has to spend money in 2017, 2018, spring 2019, summer 2019, fall 2019, winter 2019, January 2020, February 2020 — one will be paying designers and artists until the end of time.

Would I appreciate a somewhat more current look? Sure. Would I trade good HTML and universal readability for a more current look? Hell no.

Re:Some news from LWN by happyslobro on Thursday August 04, 2016 @08:27AM (#12225023)
Also, things that should be rock solid and dirt simple by now have actually gotten more fragile over time. Heck, just look what happened when the parent tried to write the current year, after successfully expressing an older two decade range ;)

2016 was a total mistake. Let's just revert, and then wait for 2020-LTS.

Re:Some news from LWN by wtbob on Thursday August 04, 2016 @09:24AM (#12225290)
> Heck, just look what happened when the parent tried to write the current year, after successfully expressing an older two decade range ;)

Argh, I blame an unfamiliar keyboard. And being half-asleep. Sigh

Re:Some news from LWN by Svenskunganka on Thursday August 04, 2016 @10:28AM (#12225732)
You don't really have to make it look "current" to make it better. I think a good example is antirez blog: http://antirez.com/latest/0

It's clean, very simple and renders fine in everything, even mobile. No distracting content, proper font and font spacing.

Re:Some news from LWN by joshuata on Thursday August 04, 2016 @01:29PM (#12227114)
It's actually very problematic from an accessibility standpoint. The entire text of each post is a single pre tag which makes it almost impossible to use with a screen reader. This is exactly why there were complaints about fancy style on websites; it often ruins the structural markup of a page.
Re:Some news from LWN by josteink on Thursday August 04, 2016 @12:33PM (#12226680)
And has terrible contrast on the main page content's text making it hard to read if you have poor eyesight, poor light conditions or a poor monitor.

This would probably fail a basic Universal Accessibility test based on that alone.

Re:Some news from LWN by sp332 on Thursday August 04, 2016 @12:46PM (#12226782)
I don't like low-contrast sites, but on my monitor that one is stark black-and-white. In fact there are no CSS rules for the color, and the font stack is "Inconsolata, Courier" so I don't know what the issue could be.
Re:Some news from LWN by Gigablah on Thursday August 04, 2016 @01:29PM (#12227117)
It's black and white on my MBP (Chrome). Maybe your browser is the one messing it up.
Re:Some news from LWN by brazzledazzle on Thursday August 04, 2016 @01:21PM (#12227068)
Not seeing what you're describing either.
Re:Some news from LWN by tehmillhouse on Thursday August 04, 2016 @08:38AM (#12225079)
As a reader of a website, I usually primarily care about what the page looks like when it's rendered, as opposed to how clean the HTML is.

Granted, the current trend to make everything feel like a shitty JavaScript application would be taking it too far, but lwn.net is definitely not a pleasure to read. Yes, it displays "just fine" in links, lynx, elinks, etc., if your definition of "just fine" is Fefe's Blog.

Re:Some news from LWN by pantalaimon on Thursday August 04, 2016 @10:48AM (#12225856)
Re:Some news from LWN by lawl on Thursday August 04, 2016 @01:09PM (#12226991)
For the non german speaking crowd, CSS reset: https://blog.fefe.de/?css=

This is how it looks if you visit the site without a CSS cookie.

Re:Some news from LWN by akx on Thursday August 04, 2016 @01:40PM (#12227200)
Oh, I'll bite. It took me 15 minutes and 44 lines of CSS to make it look significantly more 2010s (and dare I say it, more readable): http://i.imgur.com/LAhwht5.png
Re:Some news from LWN by wtbob on Thursday August 04, 2016 @07:40PM (#12229204)
I prefer serif fonts, but that looks nice enough.