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Re:Federal health expert drop flossing from health guidelines by mrweasel on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @05:17AM (#12216704)
For years my oral hygienist kept telling me to a get an electric toothbrush. When I finally got one, I didn't tell her, but I never hear the "get an electric tooth brush" again.

It was the same with flossing. When I started flossing I didn't say anything, and she hasn't commented that I need to floss since.

Re:Federal health expert drop flossing from health guidelines by nextos on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @08:36AM (#12217453)
There's a ton of evidence in the literature supporting that gum disease and cavities are, obviously, a bacterial issue.

Flossing is an obvious way to disrupt pathogenic bacterial colonies by abrasion. I think irrigation is much better, as it reaches deep pockets below gums. But it doesn't replace flossing entirely.

Those two, coupled with regular brushing of teeth, gum and tongue, plus oral probiotics should keep issues at bay.

In particular, my experience with probiotics is that tartar calculus fell apart within a few months. I have never had a cavity.

Sadly most dentists don't place too much emphasis on these as it goes against their business model: drill, fill and bill.

Re:Federal health expert drop flossing from health guidelines by greggman on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @10:41AM (#12218219)
Where is this research that flossing is "an obvious way to disrupt pathogenic bacterial colonies by abrasion".

Here's some research that claims flossing actually causes problems.

"Dental flossing can produce bacteraemia in periodontally healthy and periodontally diseased individuals at a rate comparable with that caused by some dental treatments for which antibiotic prophylaxis is given to prevent IE." http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1600-051X.2008....

Re:Federal health expert drop flossing from health guidelines by nextos on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @06:08PM (#12221941)
Thanks. This is a good point, which I agree on.

But in general, interdental flossing is very good against contact cavities [1]. Perhaps deep flossing is leading to bacteraemia. I have always found hard and awkward to perform deep flossing, and that's why I use oral irrigators instead. However, maybe irrigation also leads to bacteraemia. I've seen some references supporting that too.

[1] http://jdr.sagepub.com/content/56/6/574.short

Re:Federal health expert drop flossing from health guidelines by ronjouch on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @08:40AM (#12217475)
Can you expand on which probiotics?
Re:Federal health expert drop flossing from health guidelines by nextos on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @08:55AM (#12217566)
Blis M18 and K12 strains. There are many brands using these. I prefer pills straight from Blis or Life Extension.

If your mouth has an unhealthy microbiome, you might need to place a lot of emphasis on killing bad bacteria initially. For this purpose, salt water or mild antibiotics (chlorhexidine) for 2 weeks combined with double dose of probiotics should do the trick.

Obviously, sugars feed bad bacteria, which metabolize it into acids to erode your enamel. Avoid entirely.

Re:Federal health expert drop flossing from health guidelines by danwills on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @08:59AM (#12217583)
I reckon milk kefir is pretty good, apparentiy it has a particularly broad and strong co-operative of micro-overlords, ahem, micro-organisms! Dental-protection? probably? No studies to back that, but in my opinion, it's one of the best cultures for your insides.
Re:Federal health expert drop flossing from health guidelines by dazc on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @06:15AM (#12216907)
Also worth noting that if you floss properly (maybe also use interdental sticks) the descaling routine becomes a lot more comfortable. For this reason alone it's worth doing.
Re:Federal health expert drop flossing from health guidelines by rangibaby on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @07:28AM (#12217178)
Flossing was a painful, bloody mess for me the first week or so I did it. Then it felt great, then I ran out of the floss sticks (like a disposable razor, but with floss instead of a blade) and haven't done it since. Such is life.
Re:Federal health expert drop flossing from health guidelines by merpnderp on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @10:25AM (#12218103)
I found this to be the same with a water pick. At first my gums bled and hurt, but after a few weeks I could turn the power to max and it feels like an awesome massage on my gums. I used to get some food stuck between my teeth, but now almost never do which I presume is due to much healthier gums.