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Re:Salesforce buys word processing app Quip for $750M by pmarreck on Monday August 01, 2016 @05:54PM (#12206349)
It's HTTPS to them, then it's "inside their systems in some unknown form", then it's HTTPS to whoever else looks at it.

Basically, there's nothing preventing Google themselves from looking at your Docs data in cleartext. And that's bad for corps who want total privacy.

Re:Salesforce buys word processing app Quip for $750M by brown9-2 on Monday August 01, 2016 @08:10PM (#12207050)
I think it is worth pointing out that 1) you have no idea what Quip does with the data once it gets past their web server 2) there is no mention of "end to end" in Quip's security document https://quip.com/ABbYAZsD8nbt
Re:Salesforce buys word processing app Quip for $750M by jsmthrowaway on Monday August 01, 2016 @09:10PM (#12207230)
You can run Quip on premises, and it's functional without an Internet connection. So if the security picture matters that much there is an option (priced rather well, too).

There are a number of "shadow IT" single-admin Quip instances popping up both in systems I'm aware of and those I hear about from other folks, so I'm guessing it's easy to administer. I know it works without Internet connectivity because I saw someone install it in an environment that intentionally has no access.

I've always wanted Google Docs on prem so if Quip is it, that's interesting in itself especially for the security reasons. But, Google has incredibly stringent controls around user data after a particular press-involved incident involving an SRE, so while the paranoia of possibilities is well-founded, in practice they'd need a damned good reason (like a critical failure in the product) to even look. They can, and do, walk employees for getting this stuff wrong.

So theoretically, yes (good security mind), practically, not likely.

Re:Salesforce buys word processing app Quip for $750M by X86BSD on Monday August 01, 2016 @10:26PM (#12207488)
Thanks for pointing out it can be run locally. That's a win IMO.
Re:Salesforce buys word processing app Quip for $750M by voltagex_ on Tuesday August 02, 2016 @02:28AM (#12208134)
What was the Google incident?
Re:Salesforce buys word processing app Quip for $750M by jsmthrowaway on Tuesday August 02, 2016 @03:02AM (#12208256)
David Barksdale. To be clear, though, if one squints he did leave a positive legacy in many more forms and technical barriers on the way to a log entry. Not all him, but a lot.

Good lesson to learn for all of us with administrator access, too, about not even trusting inside folks. The DBIR is compelling here.

Re:Salesforce buys word processing app Quip for $750M by pmarreck on Monday August 01, 2016 @09:35PM (#12207328)
You're right. I read too much into the "Security/Privacy" section of their website.

So what's the real selling point, then? Like I said it seems like a hybrid of Google Docs and Google Wave.

Re:Salesforce buys word processing app Quip for $750M by richman777 on Wednesday August 03, 2016 @06:12AM (#12216891)
That's essentially exactly what it is. Our team got a demo from them trying to determine the best tool for our use-case and we simply couldn't justify it over google docs for how we do things, especially since we were already setup on the google apps platform for our domain.
Re:Salesforce buys word processing app Quip for $750M by X86BSD on Monday August 01, 2016 @08:36PM (#12207143)
Yeah I didn't get his comment either. I read their security document. They use SSL to encrypt traffic in transit. That is all. It's not encrypted at rest or in any other fashion. Big deal almost everything is SSL these days during transit the big sales point that catches MY eye are products that encrypt your data at rest like tarsnap, where no one, including the state can access it. THAT is the only products I will use or trust. These guys mine your data just like Google. Don't kid yourself.
Re:Salesforce buys word processing app Quip for $750M by jsmthrowaway on Monday August 01, 2016 @09:30PM (#12207309)
While you're right to be suspicious — of any hosted product, really, especially biz intel things like this and Slack — I think you got ahead of yourself in the last couple of sentences. A does not necessarily imply B there. (I'm not kidding myself.)
Re:Salesforce buys word processing app Quip for $750M by pmarreck on Monday August 01, 2016 @09:35PM (#12207330)
Answered here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12207328 but in short, you're correct, I made a bad assumption.