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Re:Remove Firefox Hello from FF49 by Brakenshire on Saturday July 30, 2016 @08:47AM (#12192746)
Never really understood why people were strongly opposed to Firefox Hello. As far as I understand, it's a minimal wrapper on WebRTC. Seems to be no argument on bloat, perhaps a minimal argument on confusing the user? Or was there some privacy implication I hadn't heard of?
Re:Remove Firefox Hello from FF49 by adrusi on Saturday July 30, 2016 @09:42AM (#12192921)
Well for one, Firefox Hello works with a centralized signaling server running proprietary code. Not appealing to the contingent of Firefox users who use it because it's the most in-line with free software ideals of the popular browsers.
Re:Remove Firefox Hello from FF49 by icebraining on Saturday July 30, 2016 @10:10AM (#12193036)
running proprietary code

No, the server is MPLv2 licensed: https://github.com/mozilla-services/loop-server

Re:Remove Firefox Hello from FF49 by adrusi on Saturday July 30, 2016 @10:50AM (#12193175)
As I understand, It uses Telefonica's proprietary (and misleadingly named) OpenTok platform. The README you linked even mentions specifying TokBox credentials.
Re:Remove Firefox Hello from FF49 by dingaling on Saturday July 30, 2016 @01:49PM (#12193901)
You are correct, Hello used OpenTok. To enable Hello with NoScript active one had to whitelist opentok.com and tokbox.com

Loop Server was indeed open source but sat downstream from the WebRTC and STUN / TURN provider

https://wiki.mozilla.org/File:Loop-network.png

Interesting to see OpenTok's pricing, though presumably Mozilla had an 'arrangement' with Telefonica:

https://tokbox.com/pricing

Re:Remove Firefox Hello from FF49 by favadi on Saturday July 30, 2016 @09:40AM (#12192909)
It is just not useful for anything. You can't tell your friends to install Firefox for a video call.
Re:Remove Firefox Hello from FF49 by iamd3vil on Saturday July 30, 2016 @10:01AM (#12192989)
You don't need Firefox for a video chat. It sends a link and you can open it in any browser.
Re:Remove Firefox Hello from FF49 by amelius on Saturday July 30, 2016 @11:04AM (#12193234)
Why can't we in 2016? What is so special about "installing" software as opposed to just running it, that it needs additional consideration?