If anything, React-* is the stack that has a longevity problem from my point of view. Everything I do on the web I use React, and my impression is that even if I'm using a modern stack, everything breaks 6 months later because things have changed considerably. Many of the extensions React naturally need either fall out of fashion, or go through deep changes, or are just not that good. On every new project I assemble, I start from the assumption the architecture will be outdated very fast.
I hope Angular will make that kind of stuff a bit more solidified. We don't need a new store solution on every new project.
No such thing. They're all pretty much fad frameworks.
Actually, I think it's probably more comparable to some kind of Java FactoryProviderServiceFactory thing.
CanJS, the MVVM part of DoneJS, is currently coming up to its third major/breaking version. I think that’s a pretty good track record for us/Bitovi.
No, that's your own straw man definition.
> It would not surprise my if some dumb turbolinks staff would beat a lot of fancy frameworks performance an UX wise.
Turbolinks absolutely does not beat a well written SPA UX-wise.
One of the front-end candidates is Angular. But we're considering cutting it from the race.
The three main things we're looking for in a front-end framework:
1. Longevity: we don't want to adopt yet another fad framework that we'll have to replace in 2017. The current trend looks to be moving towards React-style FRP, and Angular seems to be catching up in version 2, but nobody seems to be using that yet, which means nobody will start using it. It looks like another Python 3 problem to me. I don't see Angular lasting long.
2. Flexibility: we want to quickly be able to change what pages we have and what's on them, without needing to tear down and rewrite the entire front-end. If Angular is only just now beginning to adopt React-like patterns, how can I be assured that it got them right, and that I won't run into rigidity issues 2 weeks into writing Angular code?
3. Convention over configuration: our data will live in MongoDB, so all our models are straightforward JSON. I'm hoping to find a stack that assumes this and doesn't require me to write tons of boilerplate that should be assumed for me by my frameworks. I'm not sure how Angular fares in this, but so far none of the candidates really shine in this area.
For the record, we're currently looking into Sails + Ember + Mongo. But we're not super excited about this since it still doesn't look like it'll hit all three of our needs really well. I'm particularly concerned that Ember is going to have the same issues as Angular, especially if the community is looking to regularize tools around React.