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Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by dpiers on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:11PM (#12177189)
I don't think consumer interest in VR was oversold. The current options are doing quite well in the early adopter space, and I think we're on track for mass adoption in 5-10 years.

Only a few people had plasma/lcd screens when they first launched. Only a few people had the Internet in 1991. VR has only been in consumer hands for a few months.

Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by freyir on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:30PM (#12177291)
> I don't think consumer interest in VR was oversold.

Some companies and people had very unrealistic expectations about VR when they entered the space. 5-10 years seems like a realistic timeline for potential mass adoption.

> Only a few people had plasma/lcd screens when they first launched

Only a few people had 3D TVs and Segways when they first launched. Unlike the iPhone, only a few people ever had the EyePhone [1]. It remains a question whether a critical mass of people will want VR. I've witnessed many people experiencing VR where it's like "Wow, this is totally amazing" for the first five minutes, followed by complete disinterest after 15 minutes. I think that suggests that there's something there, but there are also some barriers that haven't been identified and addressed yet.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VPL_Research#The_EyePhone

Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by JustSomeNobody on Thursday July 28, 2016 @04:00AM (#12178952)
The barrier is strapping something to one's face. People don't want that.
Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by freyir on Thursday July 28, 2016 @01:02PM (#12181484)
I tend to agree. But why don't people want to strap something to their face? Is it the physical discomfort of the straps and the weight of the headset? That can be incrementally improved.

Is it the way the display cuts them off from the outside world? Some degree of immersion is desired -- people sit in dark theaters to watch movies -- but maybe VR is too much. I think it's fitting that Facebook/Zuckerberg thinks VR is the future of social networking. A "social" product that makes you feel more isolated.

Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by JustSomeNobody on Friday July 29, 2016 @07:34AM (#12186139)
I think they would have to get to the point where they are similar to regular sunglasses[0]. And the set up would have to be as simple as picking up a remote and turning on the tv. IOW, when someone puts on the VR glasses, they auto connect and start up immediately with little user intervention. Anyone other than a geek/nerd/techie, doesn't want to 'fiddle' with something to use it. They want it TV remote easy.

[0] Though I still tend to think that even this would not be enough for most people - see 3D glasses/TVs.

Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by ekianjo on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @07:32PM (#12177295)
There is no killer app in VR so far that would lead to mass adoption. Software is clearly missing. It may bd solved later on but it will take time.
Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by r00fus on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @10:04PM (#12177879)
Well there's VR porn apparently now - and porn has always been on the forefront of technological advances.
Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by jay_kyburz on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @09:14PM (#12177722)
There is no way my mum or my grandparents will buy a VR headset in the next 5-10 years and use it every day. Not a chance.

VR is 50-100 years from "mass adoption" when the headsets are as light as sunglasses are today, either that, or when my kids grow in a culture of VR. A full generation at least.

Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by nostalgiac on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @09:33PM (#12177784)
I think you are largely mistaken.

I work for a Not-for-Profit in Health Care / Aged Care and we have bought Samsung VR headsets to take into the Aged Care Homes and the elderly people there have absolutely love the experiences they had.

Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by danbolt on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @10:56PM (#12178057)
Personally, I feel as though I'll accidentally think of the elderly as less human than the young, and forget that they can be open to new things as well. The more I've realized it about myself, the more I feel I begin to see it in others too.
Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by jay_kyburz on Thursday July 28, 2016 @02:03AM (#12178627)
I don't believe I was making the mistake of thinking of people a little older than me as being less human. I have elderly friends that are avid gamers and love thier smartphones, tablets, and Facebook (which I consider to have had mass adoption).

VR headsets I put in the same category as the Microsoft Kinect or the Nintendo Wii. They are kind of fun, impressive technologies, but ultimately they are kind of a pain to use.

Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by JustSomeNobody on Thursday July 28, 2016 @04:06AM (#12178976)
> ... Kind of a pain to use.

This. The inertia it takes to actually use it has to become as low as flipping on the TV and channel surfing. Having to locate a headset, strap it on, etc. is not what people are willing to do. Also, people don't like things on their face.

Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by tomclancy on Thursday July 28, 2016 @05:32AM (#12179263)
My parents would buy it in a second if it made long-distance hangouts with their grandchild more immersive.
Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by JustSomeNobody on Thursday July 28, 2016 @03:58AM (#12178949)
Plasmas were tens of thousands of USD when they came out.

Let's put a pin in this comment and revisit it in 5-10 years. I don't have much faith in VR being a consumer favorite. They've never been found of having to put stuff on their faces.

Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by freyir on Thursday July 28, 2016 @01:08PM (#12181518)
> They've never been found of having to put stuff on their faces.

Obvious counterexamples are eye glasses and sunglasses. There is some tradeoff between utility and discomfort where it becomes viable, but it's not clear whether the technology can get there in 5-10 years.

Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by JustSomeNobody on Friday July 29, 2016 @07:37AM (#12186158)
I worked in the eyeglass business through college. A not insignificant number of people dislike wearing glasses. They are treated as a necessity in order to see, but there's not much enjoyment there (other than style, but that only goes so far).
Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by DanBC on Thursday July 28, 2016 @01:12PM (#12181552)
And facemasks which are very popular in some places.
Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by JustSomeNobody on Friday July 29, 2016 @07:38AM (#12186161)
Being popular isn't the same a being liked.
Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by lrem on Thursday July 28, 2016 @05:17AM (#12179212)
I've had higher hopes for Kinect. But now Microsoft is shutting it down, with the IoT spirit of taking the software away from the few adopters they got over the six years.
Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by kristianc on Thursday July 28, 2016 @06:32AM (#12179431)
I think everyone had high hopes for Kinect. When it launched, it was the fastest selling consumer device of all time, and it looked for a while like it would help open the XBox platform up to a new audience of casual gamers who weren't into epic-sized shooting games.

What did for Kinect wasn't really anything Microsoft did so much as the market deciding that they wanted the smartphone to be the centre of their universe for gaming with the TV a peripheral. That that would turn out to be the case wasn't at all obvious in 2010.

Re:Facebook Posts Strong Profit and Revenue Growth by lrem on Thursday July 28, 2016 @04:49PM (#12183042)
True, but I still hate the idea of taking away Xbox Fitness from paying customers ("you can keep using the content you paid for for 6 more months!").